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  • What do you guys think this is?

    Its sold as monstastrea, but I am quite certain that is an improper ID.




  • #2
    It still looks like an Acan Enchinata to me. Has the mouth size changed since this pic?

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    • #3
      Def not an echinata the main coralite is about 1.5 - 1.75" across. I think its some type of scoly.

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      • #4
        I dont know i agree on the acan e.
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        • #5
          Yeah, I will try to get a shot of an a echinata next to it so you guys can see =), once you do you can def tell.

          Any ideas Nick?

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          • #6
            check out tjere subechinatas
            http://www.atlantisaquarium.net/LPSofties2.html
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            • #7
              Are there any dead coralites on the skeleton that you can show us a pic of? Be helpful to have a clear shot of one to compare skeletons in the available ref material. The subechinata doesn't normally have separated corallites, and I don't see any dead skeleton between them to suggest they may have once been there. As mane3215 suggested, the corallites are much too large to be a subechinata, which doesn't have corallites over 15mm.

              The closest Monastrea that it resembles is M. multipunctata, which it can't be. M. multipunctata corallites are only 5-9mm. It isn't even close to any of the other Monastrea growth forms.
              Marc
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              • #8
                [QUOTE=mane3215]Def not an echinata QUOTE]

                is too!

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                • #9
                  I agree with Ed thats a echinata
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                  • #10
                    The corallites are too large to be an A. echinata. All reference materials clearly state that the corallites are 10-15mm, max. When comparing the corallites against the known size reference, the thumb, you can see that the corallites are too large. In addition, the A. echinata septa have very large teeth. This is a link to a typical A. echinata, and you can see how prominent the septa teeth are.
                    http://www.centrescientifique.mc/ima...anthastrea.jpg
                    The photos above do not display the septa tooth prominence, and the corallites are over 15mm.

                    What physical properties are you using to ID this as an A. echinata?
                    Marc
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                    • #11
                      Gettem Marc =).

                      I will try to get a photo of the coralites today with a measuring stick in front of them. They are pretty large. I am not sure if there is any skeletal coralites visible, but if there is I will snag some shots.

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                      • #12
                        You guys have normal mouths right? Havent you ever met a person who has a BIG mouth? It happens, but we are still humans.

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                        • #13
                          Scolymia australis

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                          • #14
                            That is perfectly true...but regardless of the mouth size...it still looks like a mouth. Now if I have an ear growing under my nose, I'm not going to call it a mouth just because it is under my nose.

                            There are numerous identifying factors for A. echinata, corallite size is just one of them. Other than the fact that this is an LPS coral, none of the other identifying factors of A. echinata are clearly present. The maximum corallite size for A. echinata is 10-15mm...an unusually large corallite would be in the 15mm range. I would agree that there could be an odd corallite here & there over 15mm, but not "considerably" over 15mm. From the pictures, and taking into account the thumb for size representation, at least three of the corallites are in the 25mm+ range. In the second picture the corallites at 11 o'clock, 3 o'clock and 6 o'clock are all in the 25mm+ range.

                            As for Madison's identification as Scolymia australis. I would agree that it has more characteristics of S. australis than it does A. echinata.
                            Last edited by Marc Daniels; 11-27-2005, 04:21 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Mane-

                              Some pics of dead corallites would be helpful, even partial corallite skeletons. You don't have to measure the coral, just measure acros your left thumb as follows...we can figure the corallite size by that measurement.
                              Marc
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