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  • WARNING : acro eating flatworms

    Just a word of warning to all.

    I have experienced my first episode of the infamous acro eatin flatworms.

    When these guys take hold, the coral starts to whither away and actually looks like thinning tissue typical to a zeo overdose.

    I dipped a bali aquacultured coral this morning as it had been slowly doing worse and worse.
    The amount of these buggars was UN-FRIGGIN-BELIEVABLE............never seen anything like it before. I have NO idea on whether this particular coral will survive or not, or if other corals are now also infected.
    The tell-tale signs are:
    Coral first starts to turn brown and lose color (not dark brown)
    Coral tissue then starts to bleach, and looks "blotchy" and very thin
    Slowly but surely coral dies

    Unfortunately ive lost a couple small colonys to these bastards before realyzing i aquired them. I have my thoughts on where i got them .........all i can say is QT is now an ABSOLUTE requirement for ALL incoming corals. Ive treated for redbugs on incoming corals before , but that is simply not enough anymore.

    Also, these FW's are completely undetectable while they are on the coral. When dipped in lugols or the like they turned sort of a brown and came off by the hundreds when blasted with a turkey baster. HUNDREDS!
    Do NOT think you dont have them just because you cannot see them.
    From what I understand............they are prevelant w/ the aquacultured corals being brought in.

    ALWAYS something in this hobby........always!

    FWIW
    -Greg-
    Zeovit, Bubbleking, and grotech dealer.
    Avid SPS hobbyist

  • #2
    any pics of them Greg?

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    • #3
      good lord no


      When i get back home , i intend on dipping same coral yet again and possibly a few others..........
      If i see what i saw this mornin.ill snap off a pic or two.

      -greg-
      Zeovit, Bubbleking, and grotech dealer.
      Avid SPS hobbyist

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      • #4
        Thanks for the heads up Greg. I noticed montipora eating nudibranchs on my caps last night. I did the treatment, and I'm going to treat it again next week. I hate all these buggers.
        ________________
        Naka

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        • #5
          Ok sounds good Greg...

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          • #6
            Don't waste your time in using the FWE product. It has no affect on this type of flatworm. You also have to be sure you remove all the eggs at the base of the corals. And the rocks they are attached to. I'm afraid they are going to be a big problem here in the US. More and more people are discovering they have them.

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            • #7
              This is a very nasty flatworm.Probably worst than the red bugs that we have now.If you followed the "other board"......You will see numerous people who have wrote in.And what they have tried and "nothing works"Reefer on a Budget,has dip numerous times,with very strong dosages.And states nothing kills them ! I was hoping that ORA "Dustin " would step up to the plate,like they did for the red bugs.It has been known they came in on the "Bali" corals.So you get the idea,being how many of these corals were sold to us reefers.And how wide spread this could be ! To help a little is your "wrasse fish "A good choice is a six line,and a few others also.This is a reefers worst nightmare !
              Sorry, for the bad news.Believe it guys this is for real ! We need to find a cure SOON......AT LEAST DON'T BUY ANY WILD BALI'S FOR NOW .Till we can find out more,what can be done.
              Curt and Barbara

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              • #8
                I'm very new to sps. Please explain exactly what to dip them in and how.
                Thanks.

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                • #9
                  these guys are nutz it never ends always ends up wit something new
                  Nick
                  Nick
                  180G SPS Mainly
                  10 Bulb T5 Starfire
                  Calcium Reactor
                  3 Tunze 6105's
                  Profilux Controller
                  ATB Return w/ wavysea
                  ATB M External Skimmer


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                  • #10
                    People have used a Lugol's dip,but it only killed some of them.They also used Flat Worm Exit also,but again they all didn't die.Then you have the eggs,to deal with?I know a guy who nuke his whole tank,with Flatworm Exit.His corals lost all there flesh within 5 minutes.He totally lost some corals,but a lot are coming back around for him.When he did this he did massive water changes and carbon,to get the Flatworm exit out.But he still had them.He now has about 5 or so different Wrasse fish.For now that's the only thing you can do.Maybe Fonda whom just wrote here also,will back this up also.She has been threw it,with these coral eating critters.I know she has nuke here tank,but don't know if she got all of them?Again your best bet is the fish at this time?A lot of people probably don't even know they have them.They are big,and a clear color to them.Very hard to see.One guy said to remove any coral that you get.And remounted to a new rock.It seems they lay the eggs,at the base.
                    Curt

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                    • #11
                      Wonder if those little acropora gobies would eat them?

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                      • #12
                        what about acro crabs ?
                        Nick
                        Nick
                        180G SPS Mainly
                        10 Bulb T5 Starfire
                        Calcium Reactor
                        3 Tunze 6105's
                        Profilux Controller
                        ATB Return w/ wavysea
                        ATB M External Skimmer


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                        • #13
                          Some wrasses are supposed to eat them...
                          Fish eat poop....tastes just like chicken.

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                          • #14
                            Just so I understand this correctly. These are not the typical "red bugs" everyone is treating w/ the canine heartworm med. And it is also not the flatworms flatworms that you usually see in a high nutrient type system (flat in shape and red to redish brown in color). I need to get a QT up and running.
                            Thanks for the heads up Greg. I've had the regular flatworms before and I don't want to get into anything like that again.
                            Take Care,
                            Chad

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                            • #15
                              ok but what about acro rabs ? also i didnt know that the red flatworms has anything to do w/ high nutrients
                              Nick
                              Nick
                              180G SPS Mainly
                              10 Bulb T5 Starfire
                              Calcium Reactor
                              3 Tunze 6105's
                              Profilux Controller
                              ATB Return w/ wavysea
                              ATB M External Skimmer


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