New Tank want to make sure I start correctly

[ReefDuke]

Hi!
Starting a new tank, filling up slowly from my RODI as I write this. I want to make sure I start the cycle and dosage correctly l. I had a zeo tank in the pass but wasn’t successful, battled cyano and hair algae majority of the time the tank was setup. I contribute the cause to me over dosing so this time I want to do it right!

[ReefDuke]

So this time I’ want to follow dosing recommendations to the letter.

1. Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter
90
2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter
75
3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique
no
4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.)
no
5. Are you using Ozone
no
6. Are you using UV
no
7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume)
nyos 169
8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels
dont know
9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels
neq tank
10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.)
filter roller sump
11. Type of light (Watt, color temp, how old, etc.)
x2 XR15 G5 pros
12. What corals do you keep
noe yet but will be all sps and some lps
13. Tissue color (light or dark
new tank
14. How long has the tank been running
1 day
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system
coral colors
16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.)
none
17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.)
man made roughly 40 lbs
18. Any present problems
new tank
19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.)
none
20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.)
21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.)
22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.)
23. Which salt brand do you use
tropic marine reef prob

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[G.Alexander]

Welcome to ZeoVit.com !

I would recommend you to cycle the system as described over here:

https://forum.zeovit.com/forum/gener...803#post290803

As you do not use live rock the cycle will take additional time so some patience will be necessary but the steps for the cycle are the same.

Good luck for your new project !

G.Alexander

[ReefDuke]

I noticed you don’t have Zeo food on here for the Cycle, any reason why? I currently don’t have sponge power only start, bak and Zeo food.

[jacky]

The old version of the Zeo guide uses Zeo food, but the new version recommends that it be changed to Sponge Power. Zeo food and Zeo Sponge Power are different products and can be used for Zeo 14-day cycle. It is recommended to use Sponge Power to perform Zeo's 14-day cycle. It has good support for biological side effects and reduced nutrition. Zeo food can be used to adjust the appearance of coral later. In addition, it is recommended to use a complete Zeo system instead of adding other products, which can avoid some troubles.

[ReefDuke]

Thanks!! Do you have any information on how to “charge” the carbon? I read somewhere that you just dip the carbon bag in 90 degree water? Is that it?

[jacky]

Use ro/di water and rinse a little (fine toner/dust) so that it can be used. It is recommended to use Zeo brand carbon to avoid some coral incompatibility. Some carbon is too aggressive and removes certain elements, which may cause erosion of coral skin. It is also recommended to use some fresh and good live rock, which is really good.

[G.Alexander]

Activated carbon does usually contain a lot of air which can be released if you place the carbon for 10 – 15 minutes in hot RO water. 90 degree is ideal, the water should not boil anymore. This will make the carbon more effective.

G.Alexander

[ReefDuke]

My bottle of sponge power comes tomorrow however I’m day 7 in the cycle. The tank was started with water/rock seeded with dr tim’s one and only so my ammonia is 0, nitrite 0.2 and nitrate 2. I also dosed bright wells micro bacter 7 one and only on day 4-5 which most likely also helped with the cycle. My question is when I get the sponge power should I dose the initial dose of Sponge Power: 3 ml per 100 liters/25 US gallons or Sponge Power 1 drop / 100 liters/25 US gallons daily until the end of the cycle?

ps I’m dealing with a bacteria bloom also.

[jacky]

https://forum.zeovit.com/forum/gener...803#post290803

The addition of ZEObak, ZEOstart and Sponge Power can be started now.

ZEObak: 5 ml per 100 liters/25 US gallons
ZEOstart: 10 ml per 100 liters/25 US gallons
Sponge Power: 3 ml per 100 liters/25 US gallons


Day 2 and Day 3
Dosing break.


Day 4:

Dose ZEObak, ZEOstart and Sponge Power as recommended on the products Label daily until day 14:
ZeoBac 1 drop / 100 liters/25 US gallons daily
Sponge Power 1 drop / 100 liters/25 US gallons daily
ZeoStart 0.1 ml / 100 liters/25 US gallons 2 x daily

Starting from day 14:
ZeoBac 1 drop / 100 liters/25 US gallons 2-3 x weekly
Sponge Power 1 drop / 100 liters/25 US gallons daily
ZeoStart 0.1 ml / 100 liters/25 US gallons 2 x daily

[jacky]

When I did not enter the ZeoVit forum, I used the ZeoVit system and dry rock to execute the Zeo14 project. I encountered the problem of bacteria blooming (the water is a bit white and the skimmer stacking bubble is not normal), I understand that I need some fresh and high-quality Live rock, everything was normal afterwards. In my area, there are also many people who use ZeoVit system, but most of them always have bad experience. I want a more professional knowledge, and then I came here. After that, in retrospect, my addition of live rock was indeed the right choice. 1. Zeo guide/G. Alexander also recommends 2. Speed up this process 3. Biology is very important, it also affects the health and color of corals 4. The robustness of biology can avoid some undesirable problems.

[G.Alexander]

If you do not have animals in the system already I would recommend you to start doing SpongePower with the initial 3 ml per 100 liters/25 US gallons dosage even if the system is running since a couple of days.

G.Alexander

[ReefDuke]

Thank you

[PJewell]

The old version of the Zeo guide uses Zeo food, but the new version recommends that it be changed to Sponge Power. Zeo food and Zeo Sponge Power are different products and can be used for Zeo 14-day cycle. It is recommended to use Sponge Power to perform Zeo's 14-day cycle. It has good support for biological side effects and reduced nutrition. Zeo food can be used to adjust the appearance of coral later. In addition, it is recommended to use a complete Zeo system instead of adding other products, which can avoid some troubles.

Hey Jacky or Mr Alexander, that initially confused me when I started. I am reading more threads as I become more accustomed with ZeoVit. The “Basic 4” sold on many US websites still includes ZeoFood vs Sponge Power. Probably you two have influence over at KorallenZucth, and let them know to change this at the US distributors.

[ReefDuke]

This is my second zeo tank and this time around I can see so many mistakes that I made on my 1st tank that led to Dino’s, hair algae cyano which ultimately made me break the system down. One of those mistakes being that I was dosing zeofood every day as like PJewell said the starter packs come with Zeofood not sponge power.

Here are some mistakes I made in the past.

over dosing additives ( thought more was better)

I’m pretty sure I used the entire 1000l bag of zeolite in a 90 gallon
dosed Zeo food every day
Flow rate was not dialed in on the reactor
I ran GFO and carbon
I ran a UV sterilizer
the carbon I used was ROX

funny thing is my LPS corals actually did pretty well except any Acro I put in developed RTN within days of being in my system.

Here’s some photos of my old tank.