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    200g sps dominant. Nitrates 30ppm and not dropping after 6 weeks of dosing zeostart (1.6ml) and zeofood(.6ml) per day. Should I up the dose?

  • #2
    Welcome to ZeoVit.com !

    Please post some more details about your system:

    https://forum.zeovit.com/forum/gener...r-tank#post138

    G.Alexander

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    • #3
      1. Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter

      220US




      2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter
      200us gallons


      3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique
      2 part
      4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.)
      rowaphos about 2 months ago(same time started zeovit
      5. Are you using Ozone
      no
      6. Are you using UV
      no
      7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume)
      300 gallon rated eshopps
      8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels
      po4 .1 ppm, NO3 50 ppm
      9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels
      420ca, 8 dkh, 1300 mg ppm.


      10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.)
      water changes, skimmer,
      11. Type of light (Watt, color temp, how old, etc.) 2 48inch reefbrites(white), 2 kessil a360X, 2 hydra 26 hd. about 1 year old
      12. What corals do you keep
      mostly sps
      13. Tissue color (light or dark)
      some light some dark
      14. How long has the tank been running
      1.5 years
      15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system
      lower nutrients and increase growth
      16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.)
      most of the zeovit products. coralsnow plus, zeobak, zeostart, zeofood, CV, CB, FWS
      17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.), 200 pounds live rock, 2 years old
      18. Any present problems, cyanobacteria, flatworms
      19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.)
      tissue loss on some corals from flatworms, browning out of corals
      20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.)
      hanna checkers,
      21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.)
      1.6 ml everyday zeostart, 3 times a week zeofood .6ml, 2 liters zeostones changed every six weeks, coralsnow used daily, CV and CB used daily and flatworm stop all 8ml.
      22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.)
      1.025 sg, 78 f,
      23. Which salt brand do you use
      redsea pro

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      • #4
        hello shankpa2, if I understand it right, the net water volume is about 800 liters

        The zeolite material is about 2 liters, and it is currently replaced by about 50% each time (6 weeks) (preserving the old 50%, the new 50%) Change 1 liter every 6 weeks, not 2 liters. Zeo Bac x10 days after each material change.

        Also, what is the reactor flow level? Can you publish the actual flow? (Using a small vessel, collect the reactor outlet for 30 seconds, volume x120, and obtain continuous flow.

        If possible, adjust the following basic Zeo doses slightly: (Try it out)

        8 drops of Zeo Bac, 2~3 times a week
        Zeo Start 0.8ml x2, (every day, morning and evening)
        Zeo Sponge Power 8 drops every 2 days

        Cyano treatment: mixture, CoralSnow 16ml + Zeo Bac 8 drops, x7 days .
        Zeo Bac does not overlap with Zeo Bac 8 drops plan
        16 drops of BioMate every 2 days (optional)
        Adjust the skimmer wet to make more mud export, which also helps

        It is still not clear about the source of additional nutrition. Zeovit rowaphos was used about 2 months ago. Could you please specify that high nutrition starts from the beginning of the tank? Or what have you done that started to become high in nutrition after waiting for reasons?

        If everything is fine and the corals are healthy, the correct reactor continuous flow level is about 800 liters per hour

        If everything is fine, coral TN signs ensure that the reactor has a continuous flow of 400 per hour

        If everything is fine, if you describe it correctly (replace 2 liters of zeolite material every 6 weeks), maybe 1. reactor flow is not correct, maybe 2. zeolite material seems to be completely replaced, the source of nutritional increase The reason is that the biology changes rapidly and Cyano is generated. May 3. The nutritional level swings rapidly and the coral is not adapted (TN)

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        • #5
          Zeostart contains nitrate. It is used to mostly reduces phosphate. It usually ends up causing cyano bacteria.
          you are obviously feeding a lot and have many fish. If you not dosing vibrant I would grow cheeto in your sump a black red sea pro bucket with a kessil 160 works nicely. How fast is the water running threw the rowaphos

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bugger View Post
            Zeostart contains nitrate. It is used to mostly reduces phosphate. It usually ends up causing cyano bacteria.
            you are obviously feeding a lot and have many fish. If you not dosing vibrant I would grow cheeto in your sump a black red sea pro bucket with a kessil 160 works nicely. How fast is the water running threw the rowaphos
            The zeo system specifically states not to have a refugium, why do you suggest this?

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            • #7
              Bugger G.Alexander I think a lot of what youre saying is the exact opposite. Zeostart is the carbon source used to primarily eliminate nitrate. Many people only see phosphate removal after a while. IM not seeing either.

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              • #8
                Thank you for the additional information, but I can not see anything problematic. Can you please tell if you had the high NO3 level before starting ZeoVit also ? How many fish do you keep in your system and what are their sizes, might it contain to much fish ?

                It would also be helpful if you post a full tank shot and a picture of your sump to give us a idea about the “configuration”.

                G.Alexander

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                • #9
                  shankpa2 why dont you test start 3 for nitrate and see what you find.

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