Hello, I am considering going full zeo and have some questions as I do my research.
1. Due to my schedule, I prefer autodosing if possible. I understand that dosers may fail and that is a concern, yet certain dosers like the Kamoer offer wifi operations and suggest: Dosing Times: 24 times/day -once/7 days, Fluid Volume: 1ml - 1000ml, Accuracy: <+/-0.5%. <https://www.coralvue.com/kamoer-f4-pro-wifi-doser>
3. I understand the zeolite will 'strip' trace elements and therefore may require supplementation. However, testing Sr, Boron, Iodides, Potassium, Manganese, etc. are not practical with hobby kits, I'd imagine ICP is a better path...How Often is practical for ICP Testing given (a) the time lag between sample/result (b) approx $60 per test cost. It seems irresponsible to dose trace elements without this measure?
4. I would purchase a Vibe 4L Zeoreactor, I've read suggestions to keep the effluent on a controllable pump so as not to keep effluent 'constant' is this necessary? what if I just run it on a Manifold at 100-200gph
5. Carbon is suggested by zeo to run passively as opposed to a reactor, why?
Products I am 'attracted to': Xtra for Aminos, Coral Vitalizer + Coral Booster for polyp extension/color, Zeofood for feeding, Iodide + ZeoSpur2 for color, FWS for health, Coral Snow for cleanliness.
Products I am not sure about: B-Balance in conjunction with Coral Snow? Coral Snow has very high dosage rate (4ml/100L) this is alot of product! Is this to be used when problems arise or permanently? Coral Snow is recommended in conjunction with B-Bal, Zeobak, BioMate...all three or just one product along with Coral Snow?
So my tank is doing well, yet I am concerned that I cannot get Po4 down. I used to use biopellets and that worked but i stopped due to the problems with excessive biofilm polution.
GFO doesnt seem to reduce Phosphates for me. My source water is very good RODI, i have a 1000 gph commercial membrane, 20" Sediment, 2 Carbon, DI and change all as needed.
Help me get started the right way! THanks, Greg
ZEOVIT DOSAGE GUIDE at 300 Gallons
Calculation Key
1 drop = .05mL 100L =11.35X "START" = New ZEOvit Stones = 2 week Cycle
"1-2x/week" = 5.25X/wk 200L=5.68X
1000L=1.135X
NET WATER VOLUME 300g
1135L
BASE PRODUCT Mfg. Dosage Recommendation Dosage at NWV Efficient Dosage Combinations Hints Dosage at NWV/Day Usage/Year
ZEOvit Stones 1L/400L 2.8L Permanent use, replace @ 2 months 20.8L
ZEObak per 100L: 1 drop/day at START then 1-2x/wk 11.35 drops / day for 2 weeks at START; then 8.5 drops /day Coral Snow Permanent Use, 9 month shelf, REFRIGERATE 0.5675 mL/day for 2 weeks at START; then 0.4256 mL/day 168mL
ZEOstart 2mL/1000L daily at START; then1-2 mL/day 2.27mL/day at START, then 1.7025 mL/day Permanent Use 670mL
Activated Carbon 1L/1000L/30 days 1.14 L Permanent Use, replace at 30 days 13.6 L
Pohls Extra 0.5 - 1mL/100L/Daily 8.51 mL / Day If the coral colors are brighter, dose 1 mL, if they are darker then only 0.5mL 8.51 mL / Day 3,100 mL
Coral Vitalizer 1 drop / 200L / 1-2x/week 8.5 drops / week Coral Booster Dose CV 15 min after Coral Booster when polyps extended. Optimal effects after 7-10 days. Corals need time, some need to learn to feed, if accustomed to feeding, heavy PE will occur even at Daylight .061mL/day 22.25 mL
ZEOfood 1 drop/ 100L/week 11.35 drops / week 0.08107 mL / day 29.6 mL
BioMate 1 drop / 100L / week 11.35 drops / week Coral Snow .0817 mL / day 30 mL
Coral Snow 1 mL/100L with Bbal. Up to 25 mL/100L w ZeoBak/BioMate 28 mL / day B Balance, ZEObak, BioMate Mixe with B-Balance as facilitator. Promblems like slime algae/film, mix w/ZEOBak and/or BioMate 10,220 mL
Coral Booster 0.5 mL / 100 L / day mixed w FWS 5.67 mL / day mix FWS Flatworm Stop 2071 mL
Flatworm Stop 0.5 mL / 100 L / day mixed w CB 5.67 mL / day mix CB Coral Booster Dose for 3 months minimum 2071 mL
ZeoSpur2 0.3 mL / 100 L / 10-14 days mixed with Iodide Complex at 3 drops/100L 3.4 mL / 10-14 days with 34 drops Iodide Complex Iodide Complex Start with 0.3mL/100L. If there is no effect there is too little B-Balance Elements in the water. B-Balance should then be dosed dayly for 1 wk 1mL/100mL. Do Not Redose ZEOspur2 until 7 days after B-Balance every 14 days: 3.4mL with 1.7 mL Iodide Complex Mix 88.4 mL
Iodide Complex Each 20 days 1ml/100L mixed w/ZeoSpur2 11.35 mL every 20 days + ZeoSpur2 Mix ZeoSpur2 with MIXING DEVICE 0.5675 mL / day 44.2 mL
1. Due to my schedule, I prefer autodosing if possible. I understand that dosers may fail and that is a concern, yet certain dosers like the Kamoer offer wifi operations and suggest: Dosing Times: 24 times/day -once/7 days, Fluid Volume: 1ml - 1000ml, Accuracy: <+/-0.5%. <https://www.coralvue.com/kamoer-f4-pro-wifi-doser>
- Am I being foolish to attempt auto dosing zeo product due to potential failure?
- Would Dilution be necessary? If so, how to Dilute?
- Are certain Zeo Products better for auto dosing vs others that are better for manual dosing?
3. I understand the zeolite will 'strip' trace elements and therefore may require supplementation. However, testing Sr, Boron, Iodides, Potassium, Manganese, etc. are not practical with hobby kits, I'd imagine ICP is a better path...How Often is practical for ICP Testing given (a) the time lag between sample/result (b) approx $60 per test cost. It seems irresponsible to dose trace elements without this measure?
4. I would purchase a Vibe 4L Zeoreactor, I've read suggestions to keep the effluent on a controllable pump so as not to keep effluent 'constant' is this necessary? what if I just run it on a Manifold at 100-200gph
5. Carbon is suggested by zeo to run passively as opposed to a reactor, why?
Products I am 'attracted to': Xtra for Aminos, Coral Vitalizer + Coral Booster for polyp extension/color, Zeofood for feeding, Iodide + ZeoSpur2 for color, FWS for health, Coral Snow for cleanliness.
Products I am not sure about: B-Balance in conjunction with Coral Snow? Coral Snow has very high dosage rate (4ml/100L) this is alot of product! Is this to be used when problems arise or permanently? Coral Snow is recommended in conjunction with B-Bal, Zeobak, BioMate...all three or just one product along with Coral Snow?
So my tank is doing well, yet I am concerned that I cannot get Po4 down. I used to use biopellets and that worked but i stopped due to the problems with excessive biofilm polution.
GFO doesnt seem to reduce Phosphates for me. My source water is very good RODI, i have a 1000 gph commercial membrane, 20" Sediment, 2 Carbon, DI and change all as needed.
Help me get started the right way! THanks, Greg
ZEOVIT DOSAGE GUIDE at 300 Gallons
Calculation Key
1 drop = .05mL 100L =11.35X "START" = New ZEOvit Stones = 2 week Cycle
"1-2x/week" = 5.25X/wk 200L=5.68X
1000L=1.135X
NET WATER VOLUME 300g
1135L
BASE PRODUCT Mfg. Dosage Recommendation Dosage at NWV Efficient Dosage Combinations Hints Dosage at NWV/Day Usage/Year
ZEOvit Stones 1L/400L 2.8L Permanent use, replace @ 2 months 20.8L
ZEObak per 100L: 1 drop/day at START then 1-2x/wk 11.35 drops / day for 2 weeks at START; then 8.5 drops /day Coral Snow Permanent Use, 9 month shelf, REFRIGERATE 0.5675 mL/day for 2 weeks at START; then 0.4256 mL/day 168mL
ZEOstart 2mL/1000L daily at START; then1-2 mL/day 2.27mL/day at START, then 1.7025 mL/day Permanent Use 670mL
Activated Carbon 1L/1000L/30 days 1.14 L Permanent Use, replace at 30 days 13.6 L
Pohls Extra 0.5 - 1mL/100L/Daily 8.51 mL / Day If the coral colors are brighter, dose 1 mL, if they are darker then only 0.5mL 8.51 mL / Day 3,100 mL
Coral Vitalizer 1 drop / 200L / 1-2x/week 8.5 drops / week Coral Booster Dose CV 15 min after Coral Booster when polyps extended. Optimal effects after 7-10 days. Corals need time, some need to learn to feed, if accustomed to feeding, heavy PE will occur even at Daylight .061mL/day 22.25 mL
ZEOfood 1 drop/ 100L/week 11.35 drops / week 0.08107 mL / day 29.6 mL
BioMate 1 drop / 100L / week 11.35 drops / week Coral Snow .0817 mL / day 30 mL
Coral Snow 1 mL/100L with Bbal. Up to 25 mL/100L w ZeoBak/BioMate 28 mL / day B Balance, ZEObak, BioMate Mixe with B-Balance as facilitator. Promblems like slime algae/film, mix w/ZEOBak and/or BioMate 10,220 mL
Coral Booster 0.5 mL / 100 L / day mixed w FWS 5.67 mL / day mix FWS Flatworm Stop 2071 mL
Flatworm Stop 0.5 mL / 100 L / day mixed w CB 5.67 mL / day mix CB Coral Booster Dose for 3 months minimum 2071 mL
ZeoSpur2 0.3 mL / 100 L / 10-14 days mixed with Iodide Complex at 3 drops/100L 3.4 mL / 10-14 days with 34 drops Iodide Complex Iodide Complex Start with 0.3mL/100L. If there is no effect there is too little B-Balance Elements in the water. B-Balance should then be dosed dayly for 1 wk 1mL/100mL. Do Not Redose ZEOspur2 until 7 days after B-Balance every 14 days: 3.4mL with 1.7 mL Iodide Complex Mix 88.4 mL
Iodide Complex Each 20 days 1ml/100L mixed w/ZeoSpur2 11.35 mL every 20 days + ZeoSpur2 Mix ZeoSpur2 with MIXING DEVICE 0.5675 mL / day 44.2 mL
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