Advice for my tank

[nmo0ory]

hello,
i want to ask what else do i need and what dosing should i use
here is the info


1. Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter
600L

2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter
around 550 - 500

3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique
no

4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.)
GFO since i start the tank 1 year

5. Are you using Ozone
no

6. Are you using UV
yes

7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume)
RR skimmer

8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels
po4 : 0.08
no3 : 2

9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels
KH : 9
Ca : 460
Mg : 1520

10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.)
i have only dragon breath macroalgae

11. Type of light (Watt, color temp, how old, etc.)
Radion G3 in display
Radion G2 in frag tank + hydra 52

12. What corals do you keep
Mix

13. Tissue color (light or dark)
14. How long has the tank been running
about 1 year

15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system
to make it grow faster + cloloring
16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.)
tropic marin carbocalcium

17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.)
1 years

18. Any present problems
got diatom and get raid of it now hair alagin and i am useing vibren for it

19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.)
i hade some sps die from the meddile and some from down
but the middle it start ding the base is alive

20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.)
each 2 month i buy new one i am useing reefbot for testing
KH daily with redsea test kit
mg, po4 also redsea
other salifart

21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.)
Flatwormstop - 5ml daily
Coral Booster - 5ml every other day
Amino Acid - 3 drop daily
Pohl `S Coral Vitalizer - 3 drop daily
Sponge Power - 3 drop daily

22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.)
0.026
24 - 26 C

23. Which salt brand do you use
Instant Ocaen sea salt

[G.Alexander]

Welcome to ZeoVitc.om !

First I would recommend you to finish your algae treatment, than give your system 2 weeks time before you start to use Zeovit.

Lets start as follows:

1. Place 1.2 liter zeovit in a Zeo Reactor. Water flow around 500 liters per hour. Connect the reactor pump to a clock timer and run the reactor pump with a 3 hour on / 3 hour off / 3 hour on interval. Please make sure the zeolite is not exposed to air while the pump is switched off. Clean the material daily. Leave the zeolite 4 weeks in the filter until you do the first change out. This is the first changing interval, others could be lengthen to 6 – 8 weeks.

2. Place 0.5 liters activated carbon in a filter sock and keep it in a passive water flow in your sump, changed every 30 days. Knead the carbon daily to keep the surface clean. Most users get perfect results with korallenzucht carbon.

3. Dose 5 drops ZeoBac daily for the first 2 weeks, flowed by a 2 – 3 x weekly dosage of 5 drops each. Dose 0.5 ml ZeoStart 2 x daily (morning & evening). Dose those in front of the Zeo reactor pump while it is switched on. As you already own SpongePower dose 5 drops every other day additional. Stop dosing the additional products you use at the moment until the system is running nutrient poor stabile.

Later on you could use the additional products for coral coloration. Adjust your skimmer to skim wet, keeping it clean to export as much as possible. Do a weekly water change of 5 – 10 % with a good salt.


Ozone and UV are not compatible with the system, switch it off when you start using the system.

Basic water parameters are not ideal, try to slowly adjust and keep them as stabile as possible close the NSW in the following ranges:

KH 6.5 – 7.5
Ca 400 – 420 mg
Mg 1250 – 1300 mg
K+ ~ 380 mg

For a nutrient poor environment K+ (potassium) seems to be a important element. I would recommend you to get a test kit for this element also, posting your results.

This is a start-up dosage which might have to be adjusted later.

G.Alexander

[nmo0ory]

Welcome to ZeoVitc.om !

First I would recommend you to finish your algae treatment, than give your system 2 weeks time before you start to use Zeovit.

Lets start as follows:

1. Place 1.2 liter zeovit in a Zeo Reactor. Water flow around 500 liters per hour. Connect the reactor pump to a clock timer and run the reactor pump with a 3 hour on / 3 hour off / 3 hour on interval. Please make sure the zeolite is not exposed to air while the pump is switched off. Clean the material daily. Leave the zeolite 4 weeks in the filter until you do the first change out. This is the first changing interval, others could be lengthen to 6 – 8 weeks.

2. Place 0.5 liters activated carbon in a filter sock and keep it in a passive water flow in your sump, changed every 30 days. Knead the carbon daily to keep the surface clean. Most users get perfect results with korallenzucht carbon.

3. Dose 5 drops ZeoBac daily for the first 2 weeks, flowed by a 2 – 3 x weekly dosage of 5 drops each. Dose 0.5 ml ZeoStart 2 x daily (morning & evening). Dose those in front of the Zeo reactor pump while it is switched on. As you already own SpongePower dose 5 drops every other day additional. Stop dosing the additional products you use at the moment until the system is running nutrient poor stabile.

Later on you could use the additional products for coral coloration. Adjust your skimmer to skim wet, keeping it clean to export as much as possible. Do a weekly water change of 5 – 10 % with a good salt.


Ozone and UV are not compatible with the system, switch it off when you start using the system.

Basic water parameters are not ideal, try to slowly adjust and keep them as stabile as possible close the NSW in the following ranges:

KH 6.5 – 7.5
Ca 400 – 420 mg
Mg 1250 – 1300 mg
K+ ~ 380 mg

For a nutrient poor environment K+ (potassium) seems to be a important element. I would recommend you to get a test kit for this element also, posting your results.

This is a start-up dosage which might have to be adjusted later.

G.Alexander

thank you so much for all the information
now i have been dosing for about 3 monthFlatwormstop - 5ml daily
Coral Booster - 5ml every other day
Amino Acid - 3 drop daily
Pohl `S Coral Vitalizer - 3 drop daily
Sponge Power - 3 drop daily

so i stop it now ?
then i get reactor and zeovit ? becouse i dpn't have it yet
after that i start over again ?

[nmo0ory]

can i do it without reactor and media ? or at less without reactor ?

[nmo0ory]

before i try to lower the po4 but the problem i got dino
so how can i do if i lower the po4 and no3 ? and how much it should be ?

[jacky]

This is a tricky challenge. Since corals seem to have the phenomenon of TN, this phenomenon should be urgently avoided. In any case, 1: ro / di device, tds = 0, ensure it is good, 2: basic water parameters On the high side, what instrument is used for salt measurement? Be sure to adjust to NSW parameters slowly. Can you provide more pictures about the appearance of dino?

[G.Alexander]

Not sure about your plan, do you use the full system (Bac, Start, ZeoVit, Carbon) without a reactor ?

As you already use a PO4 absorber, I would recommend to remove it when you start with ZeoVit as follows:

With the system it is not recommended to use a PO4 absorber. I would recommend to remove 1/3 of the absorber if you start with zeovit, than reduce the rest over the next 6 – 8 weeks step by step to zero. If this is done keep a eye on the PO4 level which should not increase.

This should just be done if you use a reactor for the ZeoVit media, otherwise the nutrient processing is much lower and might cause a increase of nutrients.

Here you might find some ideas for a DIY reactor:

https://forum.zeovit.com/forum/equip...iy-zeo-reactor

G.Alexander

[nmo0ory]

This is a tricky challenge. Since corals seem to have the phenomenon of TN, this phenomenon should be urgently avoided. In any case, 1: ro / di device, tds = 0, ensure it is good, 2: basic water parameters On the high side, what instrument is used for salt measurement? Be sure to adjust to NSW parameters slowly. Can you provide more pictures about the appearance of dino?

RODI is 0-3 TDS

for the dino i will try to take photo of it today and share it

[nmo0ory]

Not sure about your plan, do you use the full system (Bac, Start, ZeoVit, Carbon) without a reactor ?

As you already use a PO4 absorber, I would recommend to remove it when you start with ZeoVit as follows:

With the system it is not recommended to use a PO4 absorber. I would recommend to remove 1/3 of the absorber if you start with zeovit, than reduce the rest over the next 6 – 8 weeks step by step to zero. If this is done keep a eye on the PO4 level which should not increase.

This should just be done if you use a reactor for the ZeoVit media, otherwise the nutrient processing is much lower and might cause a increase of nutrients.

Here you might find some ideas for a DIY reactor:

https://forum.zeovit.com/forum/equip...iy-zeo-reactor

G.Alexander

what i mean that can i use only what i have now
Flatwormstop
Coral Booster
Amino Acid
Pohl `S Coral Vitalizer
Sponge Power

or i really need to buy more product ?
sorry but this is my first time i am working with something like this

for now i stop dosing it
and i am trying to stable the po4 to 0.04 now then i will try to reduce it
but what can i do to reduce it if i am not apply to use GFO ? now GFO is stopped already
for the no3 it always low in my tank i am not using any thing to control it
i am planing to keep po4 0.04 at less 2 week tell it stable and then reduce it to make sure there is no alage problem

but if i face alage problem what i should do ?
dino what i should do with it ?
and hair alage what should also do with it ?

[nmo0ory]

here is a dino vedio
its not very clear but hope you can see it
is it dino or something else
https://youtu.be/3vXkYU1zOBc

[jacky]

I watched the video, I am sorry that my ability is not enough to distinguish whether it is dino (looks pretty like), for two reasons, 1: dino problem 2: coral TN problem, which makes me very difficult, the reasons: Unhealthy corals seem to be vulnerable to dino attack and cause TN or even death. Tank uses an additional adsorbent, which if not handled properly, accelerates coral TN. In the current situation, all nutritional products are not necessary, and it is good to stick to Zeo basic products while reducing nutrients. # 7 Project is a good start (reducing nutrients / Zeo bacterial system culture / slowing and controlling the phenomenon of coral TN (reactor))

[nmo0ory]

I watched the video, I am sorry that my ability is not enough to distinguish whether it is dino (looks pretty like), for two reasons, 1: dino problem 2: coral TN problem, which makes me very difficult, the reasons: Unhealthy corals seem to be vulnerable to dino attack and cause TN or even death. Tank uses an additional adsorbent, which if not handled properly, accelerates coral TN. In the current situation, all nutritional products are not necessary, and it is good to stick to Zeo basic products while reducing nutrients. # 7 Project is a good start (reducing nutrients / Zeo bacterial system culture / slowing and controlling the phenomenon of coral TN (reactor))

i asked about it its Ostreopsis
that its toxic and can kill corals

but now if i reduce the nutrents the dino will grow more ?
and what you mean by Zeo bacterial system ?

[jacky]

I cannot give you a definitive answer, but I think that reducing nutrients is not the cause of dino growth, and the level of nutrients is not directly related to dino. Not sure what your plan is? 1. Maintain the original plan 2. Use Zeo foundation (bac start spongepower) 3. Use Zeo foundation (bac start spongepower and zeolite material) 4. Section 3 and match the reactor. # 7 G. Alexander has detailed instructions.

[jacky]

Zeo takes basic products as the core of the system (reducing nutrients), they are Zeo bac, Zeo Start, Zeo Sponge Power, ZeoVit / Zeo brand activated carbon. While solving the dino problem, these basic products need some time to complete the work. The corresponding method, related details, and points to note are in # 7. I also recommend that you use a reactor, this is really better

[G.Alexander]

At the moment I would recommend stop dosing:

Flatwormstop
Coral Booster
Amino Acid
Pohl `S Coral Vitalizer

You can use them later once the system runs nutrient poor stabile. At the moment the basics + SpongePower as I have mention in post 2 of this thread is what I would recommend to use.

Later on you might also use CoralSnow, K-Balance, B-Balance, BioMate and Iodine but I would recommend to get them when you need them.

Looks like you have removed all the PO4 absorber you have used before at once, if this was just a couple of days before I would recommend to reintroduce 50% of the quantity you have used before again, than start to reduce it slowly step by step over the next 6 – 8 weeks to zero. In conjunction with a ZeoVit reactor you should than be able to slowly decrease PO4 without a uncontrolled increase of PO4.

Remove the hair algae regular manually with a brush and keep them as short as possible, add snails and / or a urchin additional to get rid of them. This might be a longer process.

Dinoflaggelate can be treated by a total light blackout of your system for 3 days, also make sure that no indirect light from the room is getting in the tank. You can temporary wrap the tank with a black foil. This has helped many to get rid of them however it is not a guaranty.

G.Alexander