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A Natural Coral Open Grave
Hectares of local reefs were uplifted 2 to 3 meters
by the Indonesian Earthquake od Dec. 2004.
Photo: C. Shuman
by the Indonesian Earthquake od Dec. 2004.
Photo: C. Shuman
http://www.reefcheck.org/news/aceh.asp
SteveU
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From Reef Check
http://www.reefcheck.org/news/aceh.asp
SteveU“People are very open-minded about new things - as long as they're exactly like the old ones.”
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I am going to report this thread to a Moderator. It has made me physically sick.
It least it was an act of Mother Nature and not mankind. -
No WAY! It shouldn't make you ill, it should make you realize what an incredible thing nature is, and the strength of our "delicate" reef ecosystem. When (if) the water levels ever re-cover this area - it will be a snapshot in time before they are thriving again.
Whats worse from the article ...
"The findings from this study suggest that sedimentation (exacerbated by the tsunami), overfishing, and the use of destructive fishing methods may represent a greater threat to Aceh’s reef ecosystems than the immediate impacts of the earthquakes and tsunami."
Its a really intersting article.Comment
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This is worse ....
This guy is cyanide fishing acording to the pic
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That is horrible, i mean the fact that he is using cyanide to catch fish.
This is a good article, it really makes you appreciate mother nature and the power it has.
I really wish they (whoever could control this) would outlaw the use of cyanide to catch fish....
is there a way to MAKE sure you are not buying a cyanide caught fish?
thanks
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Originally posted by nbd13
Nick this practice has been a industry controversy when I entered the saltwater hobby in the 70's
I'm not sure there's less use of cyanide despite the rhetoric to the contrary nowadays.
Bob
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They did that right next to me when I was diving in Myanmar. We moored the boat by a pinacle rising from the water, went down, swam around the pinacle and unbeknown to us some of these bastards were dropping dynamite into the water on the other side.Originally posted by MiguelitoThis is worse ....
It's REAL scary to be down there and feel the impact of a dynamite blast without knowing what is going on. You can hear the sound coming and when it hits you it feels like taking a kick in the stomach, it knocks the air right out of you. We aborted and went to the surface and basically saw the same scene as in this photo, but with a bigger boat.
Went back to the dive boat and radioed the navy who showed up pretty soon and chased that boat. Penalty is on the spot execution, serves them right.400 gallon reef, Bubble King 300, I~Spin, 2 x 10,000K BLV 400W, 2 x 20,000K Radium 400W, 2 x 6,400K Osram 400W, Schuran Jetstream 1, AquaController ProComment
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Wow are you serious? They really get executed for doign this? i never knew the penatly was so high, but am glad to see there is some type of penatly in place.
Is the use of cyanide just easier for them to catch fish? i mean what happend to the good old method of a net?
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Yes, death penalty without trial for poachers in Myanmar. It's harsh but they know the risks before they do it and it really destroys the reefs so no sympathy from me, especially since I almost got blown up myself!Originally posted by nbd13
I think Cyanide is especially used for shy and elusive fish that are hard to catch with a net. It sedates them so they are easier to catch.400 gallon reef, Bubble King 300, I~Spin, 2 x 10,000K BLV 400W, 2 x 20,000K Radium 400W, 2 x 6,400K Osram 400W, Schuran Jetstream 1, AquaController ProComment
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Wow, well i agree with you there Timon. They know what they are doing before hand so atleast there is a very harsh penatly to keep some of them from doing it.
Now is it true that the use of Cyanide will eventually kill a fish? i always here about how you shouldnt buy cyanide caught fish and try not to, but is there a "sure fire" method to NOT buying these fish that have been caught with Cyanide?
also will the fish die earlier than it usually would if it has been caught with Cyanide?
thanks
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I'm no cyanide expert but I think recovery probably depends how much cyanide got into the fish and the hardyness of the fish. AFAIK it can ruin a fishes digestive system so they may look good for a few months but they'll eventually starve.
This is one of the reasons you should never buy a fish if you haven't seen it eat.400 gallon reef, Bubble King 300, I~Spin, 2 x 10,000K BLV 400W, 2 x 20,000K Radium 400W, 2 x 6,400K Osram 400W, Schuran Jetstream 1, AquaController ProComment
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This months reefkeeping online mag has an article on cyanide use among other things.
I've spent a considerable amount of time over the last year ago reading about the problem as well as the testing procedures. A simple Google search on the subject will return a lifetime of reading material.
What I try to keep in mind while reading on the subject is many of these organizations are dependent on grant funds to stay in the field. They seem to spend most of these funds to write reports on the problem. There're experts at doing just that and if the problem would subside then there may no longer be a need for their organization. I have no idea how the problem (and I assume there is one) will be or if it can be solved.
Also keep in mind that the destructive methods are not used just for live trade but also for food fish as well.
SteveU“People are very open-minded about new things - as long as they're exactly like the old ones.”
...Charles F. KetteringComment
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The dynamite fishing is typically for food, they just like doing it on the reef because it is shallow, it doesn't work in deep waters. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd be dumb enough to eat fish caught with Cyanide too but it's probably not a practical way to catch food fish.Originally posted by GTR
Last time I was in Vietnam I read in the newspaper someone had died because he prepared dinner from rats which he had cleverly caught by killing them with rat poison (they have an interesting cuisine over there
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Cyanide is also used to stun bigger fish while they shipped to other countries for human consumption:
From: http://www.spc.int/coastfish/News/LRF/2/9WWF.htmThe report on the live reef fish trade by Johannes and Riepen, released in November 1995, focused attention on Hong Kong’s involvement in cyanide fishing; it is the world’s largest importer of live reef fish for human consumption. Many of the target species destined for Hong Kong have been caught using cyanide. The WWF family is addressing the growing threat of this practice in the Asia-Pacific region.
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Yumm... I bet it gives the dish a nice zingOriginally posted by G.Alexander
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