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    I just placed an order for the zeo basic pack from Omegareef. It prolly wont ship till early next year. That gives me time to build my reactor. I have no complaints in my system. I just want to know if it could be better.

    Now my info

    1. 90g AGA/20g sump
    2. About 85g
    3. I use a DIY dual chamber calcium reactor. 1st chamber if filled with Schuran media and the second with ARM.
    4. I have a DIY PO4 reactor with Phosban. I have been using it for about a year.
    5. I do apply ozone
    6. No UV
    7. I have a Coralife super skimmer 220. But I have modified this skimmer a bit. I now use a small 200gph feed pump and installed a A sedra 5000 for a recirc pump. Not sure what it is rated since I modified it but, it does a great job for me.
    8. PO4 is less than .05 (seachem), N03 is 0 (salifert)
    9. Ca is 435ppm (salifert), Alk is 9dkh (salifert), Mg is 1300ppm (salifert)
    10.I run a BB fuge with some LR and chaeto. Chaeto however doesnt do well in my fuge for some reason. I also run a SSB in the main tank.
    11. Lights is a pair of 250 de. PFO mini, PFO magnetic. Lamps are a week old using Ushio 14k. A pair of 54w T5s blue plus are used for supplementation. I am however considering going back to VHO URI actinics for supplement lighting.
    12. 80% sps, 10% lps, 10% softies(mainly zoos). Nothing fancy, no LE corals.
    13. Tissue colors is fair. It could be better.
    14. Tank was setup on 04/04/04. Sure, I remember that date but cant remember my anniversary.
    15. Reason I want to try zeo is because, I want the colors Invincible569 has!
    16. I dose Korralin AA. Kalk is added to my topoff water. Oceans Blend magnesium and Kent turbo calcium is added to my w/c water.
    17. I have about 110 lbs of LR.
    18. I had a mille colony RTN on me about a month ago. Not sure why though.
    19. Other than my mille RTNing, just your occasional algae on the glass. I do have some pink cotton type algae in my fuge. I do have bubble algae but I gave up in trying to fight it. I learned to just live with it.
    20. For Ca, Alk and Mg, I use Salifert. PO4, N03, Amm, I use seachem. All test kits are about a year old or newer.
    21. I havent started Zeo just yet. Still have to wait for it to arrive. I think I will start with half a liter of zeo for now and dose only half of the recommended dossage for established tanks using zeo for the first time on the start, food and bac.
    22. Salinity is 1.026, Ph fluctuates from 7.9 to 8.2, Temp normally ranges from 77.5 to 79 this time of the year. In the summer, it sometimes go to 82.

    Any advice is much appreciated and hopefully Zeovit is for me. Thanks!

  • #2
    Just some additional info
    I do weekly 10g w/c using Kent salt
    I feed once daily alternating hikari frozen mysis (1 cube), Frozen Prime reef (1 cube), Prime reef flakes. I feed the herbivours with a sheet of Julian Sprungs green seaweed every other day. I add 6 drops of Kent zooplankton every other day.
    Fishes consist of 2 green chromis, midas blenny, pink spotted goby, six line wrasse, mandarin goby, lawnmower blenny, yellow tang and a purple tang. I might be a little high on the fishload but havent seen any amm and nitrate buildup.
    I am also known as Deuce67 on RC.

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    • #3
      Tank pic

      Not really much. But I think it can be promising.
      Last edited by G.Alexander; 12-24-2005, 10:04 AM.

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      • #4
        Hi Greyghost & welcome to ZEOvit.com You'll have a marked improvement in SPS coloration & growth with the ZEOvit method. Will it be as good as Edward's? Well time will tell. No matter, if you follow the ZEOvit guidelines & don't mix methodologies from past experiences, you will be successful. To that degree, with the ZEOvit method, 03 & P04-removers as well as KW are not used. Since you have some time before starting read all the stickies at the top of this forum & understand the basics well. With ZEOvit, the parameters are kept as NSW levels:Ca>400<450/Mg>1200<1400/KH 6-8/salinity 1.023-.026. Be sure to lower the dKH to <8 before beginning. For your system I recommend the following:

        1)place 3/4 Cup carbon in a filter sock, passively in a low flow are of your sump. Knead this bag 3x's/wk & exchange monthly.
        2)place 3/4 ltrs. zeolites in a zeo-reactor at a flow rate ~ 75gph. A little more or less is fine. Cycle the stones on & off at 3hr intervals, being sure the stones stay submerged when the reactor is not operating. A inline check valve from the pump to the zeo-reactor maybe necessary. Clean the stones 1-2x's/day about 10 reps each time & replace these every 6wks.
        3)dose 3 drops Bak/Food every other day for 2wks. then dose these 3 drops each 2x's/wk for the remainder of the zeolite time-period. Dose these[along with Start2] when the reactor is
        "on" & in front of the reactor pump, with your skimmer turned off for 60min. ZeoBak[and Coral-Vitalizer] is refrigerated.
        4)dose .2ml Start2 2x's/day daily. It is not necessary to turn of the skimmer off for 60min when just dosing Start2.
        5)optional but recommended:dose 3 drops AAHC & 8 drops C-V daily in your display tank.

        Plz. ask any questions, Bob
        "There might be something to this ZEOvit"

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        • #5
          Thanks Bob. I will start reading the stickies as soon as I can. One question though. How much does one liter of zeovit fill a cylinder that is 4" in diameter? I just need to know how tall I should make my reactor. Thanks!

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          • #6
            One question though. How much does one liter of zeovit fill a cylinder that is 4" in diameter? I just need to know how tall I should make my reactor. Thanks!
            I would GUESS around it would fill to about 4-6". Keep in mind, you will need to allow for enough clearance for the rocks to "float" when you stir it. Try to do a search for DIY reactors here, there have been quite a few cool designs...
            Fish eat poop....tastes just like chicken.

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            • #7
              Thanks for the info Ger! I have read up a bit more on zeo. So from what I have gathered up, once I start, I should unhook my ozone, remove my chaeto, stop using KW, lower my alk, remove phosban and should consider getting a better skimmer. Will I still get crystal clear looking water when I stop using ozone? Without using KW, how do you guys compensate in increasing your Ph since it tends to go down when using a Ca reactor? If I adjust my Ca reactor to give me a lower alk reading, it may also give me a lower calcium reading. From experience from the past, it may dip down below 400ppm. Bob, just for clarification, on step 4, that is .2 ml of start and not 2ml right? Thanks guys and Merry Xmas!

              Russ

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              • #8
                Hi Russ, the water will be even more crystal clear as nutrients will become lower. I use Oceanic[Hi Ca,Mg, low KH] 50-50 with IO[low Ca,Mg,high KH] with not needing to run my CR as hard, resulting in stable, inline parameters. There have a couple of threads here regarding regulating pH--use our search engine. One can use higher quantities of Start2, though I recommend 0.2ml 2x's/day. The excess signs of Start2 will be a feathery detritus, or slimey build up with small air-bubbles on our rocks. Bob
                "There might be something to this ZEOvit"

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                • #9
                  Omegareef still has not acknowledge my order. Holiday I guess. Hopefully thier zeo products are up to date like Start2 instead of 1. I adjusted my Ca rx yesterday to get my alk below 8 and did not dose KW. Ph this morning was at 7.7. I dont think its that bad but would like it to stay at 7.8 at its lowest. I still have not stumble on the thread on ph regulating. It also seems that a bit of wet skimming is preffered. No problem there. I also took out my chaeto and placed all of my rock in the sump in my main tank. No more fuge. Man there was a lot of gunk under those rocks. Apparently a Hanna P04 meter is preffered in testing P04. Is it a necessary test kit? I will get one if it is. I calculated it out, With using Zeo and additional supplements such as AAHC and CV, it comes down to about a little less than 10 bucks a week for the quest of a better reef. I can handle that.

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                  • #10
                    Hi Russ, all good improvements.:. As one goes deeper into ZEOvit, the P04's becomes lower than we can test w/o a Hanna. It is not necessary, though, but does give us a better gauge on our individual zeo-dosages. Russ, an easy way to raise pH, is to connect the airline on our skimmer to the outside air. My home was built in 1926, so extreme air-tightness does not existBob
                    "There might be something to this ZEOvit"

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                    • #11
                      Well since I wont be using Phosban when I start, I went ahead and modified my DIY phosban reactor into a zeo reactor. Even installed a check valve per Bob's suggestion. It will be used externally. Hope this works.


                      Why cant I upload photos here. I have to go to RC and load it there.
                      Last edited by G.Alexander; 12-26-2005, 11:27 PM.

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                      • #12
                        RC does not allow crosslinking, you can upload to the zeovit.com gallery and link it to the thread, or you can use any other free webhosting like photobucket.com
                        also you can just hit "Go Advanced" and then attach the picture,

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                        • #13
                          Oops. I will delete the photo on rc and load it up on photobucket. Thanks for the heads up.

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                              Good job Russ--that should work if there's no leak at the handle, Bob
                              "There might be something to this ZEOvit"

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