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    Anyone good w/ diagnosing fish disease?

    Hi,

    i would like to ask you to help me diagnose one of my fish.

    i have a school of lyertail anthias. 4 females and 1 male.

    1 of the females' scales are not looking right. instead of laying down like a normal fish, they are sticking up. she is loosing some of them also.

    she also has this brownish/black stuff on her head.

    everything is test fine in the water and all the other fish look fine.

    is the fish a goner? is there something i can do?

    do you think other fish will catch it and die?

    my tank is 275 gallons so its kind of hard to catch a fish let along a anthias.

    i mean what do you think? the fish is still eating (well it ate this morning i am going to feed in about 2 hours again).

    what do you think? is there a chance it will survive and live without intervention?

    thanks

    Nick

    P.S. should also not this particular fish is breathing alittle hard.
    275 Gallon Envision Acrylics Tank, 70 gallon sump, BK 300 internal, Zeovit, 5 sequence darts (1 on a oceansmotions 4-way), medusa dual controller, 2 ebo jaer 250w heaters, 1/2 hp JBJ comercial chiller, 4 RO IIIs w/14k hamilitons, 4 VHOs super actinic, deltec pf500 Ca Rx, 3 reef ceramic pillar, and 1 reef ceramic mini-reef, 5 ceramic closed loop intake screen covers, with 50ish pounds of LR
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    well another side not the fish did not eat anything when i feed about 10 minutes ago.....

    i just dont want this disease to spread to the rest of the fish....

    Nick
    275 Gallon Envision Acrylics Tank, 70 gallon sump, BK 300 internal, Zeovit, 5 sequence darts (1 on a oceansmotions 4-way), medusa dual controller, 2 ebo jaer 250w heaters, 1/2 hp JBJ comercial chiller, 4 RO IIIs w/14k hamilitons, 4 VHOs super actinic, deltec pf500 Ca Rx, 3 reef ceramic pillar, and 1 reef ceramic mini-reef, 5 ceramic closed loop intake screen covers, with 50ish pounds of LR

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    • #3
      Nick, I'm sure there may be someone here who may be able to help but something I did in the past was call Seachem. I had a question about one of their products or which one I should use to treat a problem. I left a message and they got back to me the same day. Very cool guy and took the time to answer my ?'s. With this kind of service I will always recommend them whenever I can. My LFS has said the same of their customer support. I must of got their # off their website. Maybe you could E-mail them w/ a pic. I bet they would get back to you.
      Later,
      Chad

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      • #4
        Nick, do you have any pictures...?
        Fish eat poop....tastes just like chicken.

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        • #5
          Yeah i can take some and post them it will have to be tomorrow though, lights just went out.

          Nick
          275 Gallon Envision Acrylics Tank, 70 gallon sump, BK 300 internal, Zeovit, 5 sequence darts (1 on a oceansmotions 4-way), medusa dual controller, 2 ebo jaer 250w heaters, 1/2 hp JBJ comercial chiller, 4 RO IIIs w/14k hamilitons, 4 VHOs super actinic, deltec pf500 Ca Rx, 3 reef ceramic pillar, and 1 reef ceramic mini-reef, 5 ceramic closed loop intake screen covers, with 50ish pounds of LR

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          • #6
            Ok i took 4 pictures of the other fish, NOT the lyertail. i think the lyertail is staying the the rocks and think he might be dead or will be soon. i am so sick of healthy fish dying!

            anyway here is a picture of the OTHER anthias i am talking about with the black/brownish stuff on his head/lips and body.

            let me tell you whats been going on in depth more. you may remeber i started a thread awhile ago here it is,

            http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=678942

            also

            http://www.zeovit.com/forums/showthr...highlight=fish

            well to make a long story short i did not do anything with the 3 remaining fish (2 clowns and foxface). i added a small chevron tang and he seemed to be doing fine. about 2 weeks went by and everything was doing fine. so i added a school of lyertail anthias (4 females, 1 male). they were doing fine so about 2 weeks later i added a school of bimaculatus anthias (4 females and 1 male) they came in great and were doing real well eating the first day. then my chevron got sick and did not eat for 2 days. he looked like he was going to die! he was missing about half of one of his front fins. and had some white marks on his body, not ick though. then he started eating though and is now FULLY healed and fatter than ever!

            BUT i lost 2 female bimaculatus anthias and 1 male, they all stopped eating and developed white patches on their bodies started loosing scales and were breathing very heavy. then they all died! BUT BUT 2 female survived! well acutally.....

            now i got the bimaculatus anthias online from liveaquaria.com and they sent me 1 male, 3 females AND 1 WRONG ANTHIAS the one in the pics you will see later. so 1 female bimaculatus anthias survied and this other anthias survived.

            so everything was going great after loosing these fish and i added a interruptus angel. she is about 5" and doing GREAT! eating everythign in sight and real fat!

            BUT about 3 days ago i noticed one of my female lyertails getting sick with the symptoms above. and like i said i think she will die soon. it is REALLY making me mad!

            so at this moment i have, 2 ocellaris clowns (tank raised), 1 foxface, 1 chevron, 4 female lyertails, 1 male lyertail, 1 female bimaculatus anthias, 1 WRONG anthias, 1 female interruptus angel.

            now all these fish are doing well except one female lyertail which i think i will loose, and the wrong anthias that was sent to me. now that i look though the female bimaculatus anthias does have some of this black/brown crap on her forehead too.

            anyway here are the pics,



            and



            and



            and



            so what do you think? i mean what should i do?

            is it NOT safe to add anything?

            should i just wait and see what happens?

            i am going to try and catch the anthias in the picture and give him to my LFS so they can try and cure it.

            BUT what about the fish in the tank? i think everyone knows how expensive that interruptus angel is, and i cant afford to loose that fish!

            anyway should i just wait and see what happens with the current fish in the tank and go from there?

            also now that i look more close another one of my female lyertails has that black/brown stuff on her and a couple (3-5) of her scales are white and they look like they are going ot fall off.

            as i am typing i just realized the the female lyertail DIED! this really SUCKS!!!

            anyone have any ideas?

            thanks

            Nick
            275 Gallon Envision Acrylics Tank, 70 gallon sump, BK 300 internal, Zeovit, 5 sequence darts (1 on a oceansmotions 4-way), medusa dual controller, 2 ebo jaer 250w heaters, 1/2 hp JBJ comercial chiller, 4 RO IIIs w/14k hamilitons, 4 VHOs super actinic, deltec pf500 Ca Rx, 3 reef ceramic pillar, and 1 reef ceramic mini-reef, 5 ceramic closed loop intake screen covers, with 50ish pounds of LR

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            • #7
              Originally posted by nbd13
              1 of the females' scales are not looking right. instead of laying down like a normal fish, they are sticking up. she is loosing some of them also.
              Dunno about the rest of your fish but this sounds like injury to me. Anthias like to fight with each other in case you didn't notice.
              400 gallon reef, Bubble King 300, I~Spin, 2 x 10,000K BLV 400W, 2 x 20,000K Radium 400W, 2 x 6,400K Osram 400W, Schuran Jetstream 1, AquaController Pro

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