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  • House is finally done - time to get my frag tank going!!!

    1. Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.)
    115 gal
    2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.)
    depends if I use LR or not
    3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique
    yes - MRC dual chamber
    4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.)
    no
    5. Are you using Ozone
    no
    6. Are you using UV
    no
    7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume)
    Euro-Reef ES5-2 - will be doing the gate valve mod
    8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels
    9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels
    10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.)
    11. Type of light (Watt, color temp, how old, etc.)
    1 250HQI 10K and 1 175SE 10K
    12. What corals do you keep
    frags - sps under 250 non sps (rics, some zoos, a few LPS) under 175
    13. Tissue color (light or dark)
    14. How long has the tank been running
    not yet running
    15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system
    I like what it has done for my 18 gal in 6 short weeks and I believe it is the easiest way to maintain a nutrient poor system
    16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.)
    17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.)
    18. Any present problems
    19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.)
    20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.)
    21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.)
    22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.)

    Ok, here's the deal. House is finally done so now I can focus my resources back to getting my frag system up and running. The tank is a 2'x4'x1' plywood that I built. I am using a 55 gallon for a sump.

    Some previous threads here have sparked my curiosity. Can I run this system indefinitely with out any live rock and solely rely on Zeovit to provide for my filteration? Since it is a frag tank, I don't really need the rock for display. The original plan was to put the rock in the sump and provide the filteration. I have the room, but I see no need in spending the $ for something that isn't going to contribute to the system.

    I plan on using the basic 4 and AAHC. Cal, MG, Alk will all be kept inline (420, 1300, 7.5) salinitly 1.024/1.025, temp 81.

    So tell me what you all think!
    --Matt

  • #2
    Originally posted by tonkadawg
    Can I run this system indefinitely with out any live rock and solely rely on Zeovit to provide for my filteration? Since it is a frag tank, I don't really need the rock for display. The original plan was to put the rock in the sump and provide the filteration. I have the room, but I see no need in spending the $ for something that isn't going to contribute to the system.
    I am just getting the rest of the tanks built for me, I will have 800 gallons on ZEOvit w/out live rock. IMO if its not a display tank then no rock is needed, and in my new display when I build it I will have little to no rock, just enough to glue some corals down.

    Save the cash, get a monster skimmer, run ZEO and have beautiful corals also post some pics of what you have thus far

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    • #3
      Glad to hear that my logic wasn't messed up.

      Tonight I am goign to caulk the seams for added measure and test fit the plumbing. Might actually get it all cemented - still have a couple of pieces I need to pick up.

      So if there is no rock, there shouldn't be a cycle - or will there be one (with the addition of the basic 4)? If not, how do I know when the tank is ready for live stock?

      Will get some pictures for you guys.
      --Matt

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      • #4
        I would get zeo running and wait 2 weeks then filler up

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        • #5
          ok so looking back over the guide, I am thinking of the following:

          1 L stones
          8 drops bak daily
          8 drops food daily
          40ml start daily

          Is this good or should I make adjustments?
          --Matt

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          • #6
            Matt, your frag set up looks exciting Those zeo-doses are over the topThose dose will be lethal to your corals. For a 100g net water vol--1) dose 1ltr. zeolites 2) dose 1 Cup carbon 3) 4 drops/4drops bak/food7 daily for the 1st 2wks, then 2x's/wk. 4) dose Start 2ml 2x's/day for 2wks, then .5ml 2x's/day. Bob
            "There might be something to this ZEOvit"

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            • #7
              Hey Bob - thanks for the reply! Not that I doubt you (you haven't steered me wrong yet), but more as a clarification as to how I came to my numbers and wondering how you got yours:

              bak:
              2-4 drops per 25 gallons
              food:
              2-4 drops per 25 gallons
              start:
              10ml per 25 gallons

              * these were all for newly established tanks with fresh water and rocks

              Maybe my tank won't fall into this catagory? About the only way I can get close to your numbers is if I consider my tank to be nutrient poor (which would be true) and running stable.

              Thanks again!
              --Matt

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              • #8
                back to the top
                --Matt

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