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**invincible569** · 09-04-2005, 04:14 PM

Nick, is your other tank still operational? When I first saw pics of your tanks, you had your corals in it and I knew that was a no no. I didnt want to say anything because you probably had an idea I wasnt thinking of. If I were you, I would move those corals or have someone hold them for you for about 2 months. That is the wisest thing you need to do even though its hard giving up those corals. You need to stabilize your tank first especially since its probably running through a cycle right now. All the brown algae is normal. Let the startup of the tank run through its normal process. As for Zeovit continue adding as recommended, but take those corals out soon. And remember to TEST, TEST, TEST until stable.

**nbd13** · 09-04-2005, 04:54 PM

Hey Edward, well i have seen many others do it this way and have talked to probably 5-6 people that did it they way i did....

i guess the big thing was that i used this reef ceramic rock...

i ran a round of test and everything comes out alright ammonia is 0, NO3 is 0, NO4 is 0....

i mean people told me to except a diatom bloom with these new reef ceramic rocks.... and i figured it would be alittle bit, but nothing like now.... it seems like i cant catch a break with this new tank...

heres a pics to prove it...

you can also note that the water is very cloudy due to all the microbubbles, heck you can even see them....

Nick

**reefboy1** · 09-04-2005, 05:16 PM

Hi Nick,

Well, I'm on week 4 of my tank and I also have a bloom of the brown stuff over everything - not as bad as you do though. That's why I've been very slow to add corals - the few frags that I have added (includeing a Tort) haven't survived. My algae is now starting to subside a bit I think. I'm sure in another month or so it'll be gone for good.

I'm sure it's a normal progression you're seeing, especially sincle you're using all most all ceramic rock. This bloom will go away.

Art

**invincible569** · 09-04-2005, 05:19 PM

The bloom is definitely normal.. i can show you a pic of my tank when it bloomed like yours when I first set it up to make you feel better.

**nbd13** · 09-04-2005, 05:26 PM

haha.... the thing is though i have alot of the LR in the sump.... so i thought that may help some....

also its weird, most of the corals are doing GREAT! theres just 1 that isnt doing so hot....

all the others seem to be doing pretty good, its just this stupid diatoms..... i think its due to the reef ceramic rock....

but i am wondering what i should do about dosing, espically since my viewing pannels need to be cleaned about everyday....

Nick

**nbd13** · 09-04-2005, 05:27 PM

i am thinking some more snails might help also... i notice they clean the starboard, because they leave little trails, haha....

maybe i will pickup more of them...

Nick

**Travis** · 09-04-2005, 06:37 PM

Nick, I second what others said about getting your corals to a stable environment while your new tank cycles. There is nothing you can do about the cycle. It is going to happen and it creates a stressful environment for your livestock. On a more positive note, I don't think your diatom bloom looks all that bad. Pretty much on par with what I would consider "normal" for a new tank in its cycle.

As for your microbubbles, I would just give it time. It may take a few months but eventually it will get better, assuming you don't have leaks in your plumbing. My tank had microbubbles like you wouldn't believe for the first few months. It was driving me absolutely crazy. It slowly got better and I didn't even realize it until one day I was looking at the tank and noticed there were hardly any microbubbles anymore. You just need to give your tank, equipment, and plumbing some time to slime up and things should look better.

**nbd13** · 09-04-2005, 06:43 PM

Thanks Travis....

like i said above all the corals, but one are doing great..... polyps out all the time, dont appear to be in any stress.... just that one coral seems to not be doing to hot right now....

but everything else is doing excellent at this time...

Travis can you either PM, email, or post some pics of how your tank's drain pipes drop down into your sump? trying to get it atleast quite at this point so i dont have this LOUD noise, haha....

actually i should post some pics of this one tenius that i have, it has really colored up sicne the move, it surprised me with its colors....

anyway on a cooler not, the regal angel ate a piece of shrimp from my hand, which is pretty cool....

its weird though just that one millie is doing bad, no other corals... what do you guys think it could be?

thanks again...

Nick

**Ger** · 09-04-2005, 07:00 PM

Nick, the diatom bloom is normal. Let it take it's course. Some people use silicate removers to reduce it, but I would just wait it out. It looks ugly right now, but it will stop sooner or later. Don't try to do a bunch of stuff trying to get rid of the diatoms. Let your tank stabilize, your corals will thank you for it. Fluctuating parameters will be more stressful to your animals than the diatoms.

BUT the kicker is i have to clean my the viewing pannels atleast once a day if NOT 2 times a day...... its like a greenish colored flim....

As far as this green colored film is concerned, is it slimey and come off easily if you wipe it with your hands?

**nbd13** · 09-04-2005, 07:05 PM

Yep thats the flim i am talking about exactly, like i cleaned the viewing pannels this morning and now they are dirty again......

its strange i have never had to do this, not even on a new tank with uncured LR....

Gary, what do you think about the corals? i mean all of them appear to be doing great, except that one millie....

Nick

**Aged Salt** · 09-04-2005, 07:46 PM

Nick, I agree with what's been said by the knowledgeable reefers. Edward's suggestion would allow you more time for your system to mature. First, be sure your 1st DI stage canister on your RODI unit removes specifically Si's. I'd exchange all the ceramic rock[& clean these] for your LR--just switch places for a month or two until the ceramic rock has a biofilm well seeded. If possible place the LR on pestal reefracks to allow daily removal of detritus/diatoms. Place your corals on the LR's for the interim. Do not worry about rock formation. Do not add any other animals.The green film on your panes is from excess Start2. Decrease Start2 quantity by 50%; the others zeo's are fine, although I'd hold all zeo-dosing for 2 days before dosing again with Start2 at 1/2 quantity.During all of these changes, be sure to again follow Edward's suggestion of keeping the parameters in line & stable. Bob

**nbd13** · 09-04-2005, 07:51 PM

thanks Bob,

i will hold everything for 2 days then restart start2 at 50% the dose....

should i still dose bak/food7 at 5 drops 2 times a week?

thanks again for everyones advice here,

Bob what do you think about the millie though? i mean why is it the only one thats not healthy? it just doesnt make sense to me?

thanks again!

Nick

**Aged Salt** · 09-04-2005, 07:59 PM

Nick, yes, when you begin dosing again, use the same regimen except for Start2. Mille's don't ship well

. Once they're acclimated, they are one of the more hardy Acroporas. Really, it's not possible to give you the reason, but just the change in water composition in your new reef can be the nidus of a downward spiral--I lost 4 corals recently on my move

for probably the same reason. Bob

**nbd13** · 09-04-2005, 08:01 PM

ok i see,

hey right now i have not been running my reactor for 3 on and 3 off, but should i maybe start to run it 3on/3off?

would that help maybe?

now keep in mind i have not been running the reactor 3on/3off ever because i couldnt, but maybe should i start? would it help?

thanks!

Nick

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