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[Adam]

I want to say that since making my 75 gallon SPS tank barebottom...things have been AWESOME!!!! I have seen lots of improvement in their polyp extension and color. My millipora's have much more extension, along with a Bali Acro that hasnt had extension in months...is starting to have more and more extension every day. One acro that apparently was turning brown is getting greener by the day, along with a really bright blue hint to it. Also, around 3 weeks ago I bought a brown bali acro with slightly green corralites, and now it has turned neon green with green polyps. And that bali acro was only $18. The store still has 2 bali brown-out acros left, that I can both purchase if I want to see what they turn out to be. One is a light brown efflo(I beleive) that absolutely has no color at all. It is poo brown, I mean the uglyest coral I have ever seen. BUT I am confiding that if I buy it it will turn out to be a great coral. The store also has a bali mille that looks to have a very slight pink color to it...again I am confident that it can(will) re-gain all of its color. So, BB is a great thing...anyone with a sandbed really does need to go BB, it really really really helps. And the detriuos coming out of my LR is amazing! I siphoned out all I could last sunday, and today, there is a pile so big that my sand sifting star is sitting almost buried in all of that nasty detrious. I will probably siphon it out too on Saturday.


Thank you bare bottom!!! (whoever you are....)

[SeanCallan]

You're keeping a sand shifting star in a BB tank?

Its not BB that makes corals brighter. People tried to explain that to you on RC. There are hundreds of AMAZING tanks that use DSBs, but you have to know how to take care of your tank. Even with BB, if you don't properly maintain the tank eventually they will brown out again. You've temporarily lowered the nutrients thats all.

You're under skimming which really caused all your nutrient build up, you probably don't do water changes either. It had nothing to do with sand.

If you had taken the time to read the posts those people went out of their way to write, you'd have understood that.

[bluereef]

So who is for first dsb-no dsb thread in zeovit forum?We was friend long enough,now is time for reall action.
LOL,just kiding

[Adam]

The Sand Sifting Star was left over from when I had sand.
I moved it to the 130gallon reef that has sand a hour ago.

I am not underskimming Sean.

I dont do water changes???What??? What are you talking about? Of course I do water changes.

[Adam]

never mind

[Aged Salt]

Adam, sounds like your reef is rounding into shape The BB will help one to see detritus build-up so much easier & siphoning this is a productive way to do WC's. Try for ~10%/wk for nutrient reduction, thus coral color improvement. Keep us updated, as Sean's & Nick's advise should be heeded. Bob

[nbd13]

adam- i woudl not let that detris sit in the tank till saturday get it our ASAP! i mean like tonight, if not you will have problems again. sphion it out tonight!

Nick

[Adam]

I cant tonight I dont have any RO or DI water.

[Aged Salt]

Adam, a trick is the use your fish-net in a "figure-8" to remove detritus within your reef. That can be productive, & turkey basting your LR of detritus into the water column helps waste depletion as well. Bob

[nbd13]

can you make some RO/DI water tonight (dont you have a ro unit?) and then make up some water and sphion it out tomorrow? if you let it sit there bad things will start to happen! i am telling you, you LR will shed liek this for about 2 months then settle down so you want to have alittle water on hand every day to sphion this out, if you dont you will have problems again!

best advise i can give you is go to RC and do some searches and read up on the BB thing, i think you dont get the concept yet, read Bombers post and SeanTs post and then you will understand it and understand what you need to do to get the most out of this BB thing, like with DSB method there are certain things that must be done inorder to keep your tank helathy , most imporant is HIGH flow and sphioning the detris out as needed (first couple of months you will need to do this daily!)

hope this helps, but seriously i cant stress enough to read and read some more!

Nick

[nbd13]

forgot to mention as Bob did you also need to blow your rocks off 1-3 times a week.

Nick

[mikester]

Take a filter bag, like you use for carbon, and attach it to one end of your siphon hose - use a rubber band to get it really tight. Drop the bag in your sump and stick the other end into the output stream from a powerhead or return nozzle in your tank. That will start the siphon, and the detritus will be caught in the filter bag and the water goes into your sump. You can siphon all night that way without changing any water.

[nyfireman3097]

i have a britle star in my BB and a goby and there during awesome i suck my detrius out once a week at water changes but im thinking of doing the whole sock thing soon just for the lok of a cleaner tank
Nick

[SeanCallan]

Adam - The skimmer you listed before was underskimming, some what, 30 people on RC told you that? How can we expect you to do water changes when you don't even pay attention to the temp of your tank? I just assume you don't do anything rather then assume you know what you're doing.

nyfireman - Keeping fish like Yellow Coris Wrasses and Sand shifters in a sandless tank causes stress which can lead to an early death. Its like removing your bed, you could sleep, but you'd be miserable after a while. Its not what you can keep in your tank, its what you can keep in your tank and keep happy and attempt to mimic their natural enviroment. I would, for the lively hood and happiness of those animals, place them in a tank where they can have sand.

[Adam]

define unskimming.