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    I have notice a very slow tissue necrosis on a valida colony. The problem is at the base of the coral. It isnt because of lack of flow. The progress has been very slow the past 3 days. It started about the size of an pencil eraser and is now about almost the size of a dime. I have stopped all dosing today. I have been using zeo for about six months. I pulled my sand bed a little over a month ago. At that time I had an increase in nutrients but no bleaching or problems (just sps darkening) I have been using start 1 since I started and have had no problems. I am using the basic items on my tank (rocks, start, bak, and food). I was dosing the following: (40 gal tank- 6 gal sump)

    2 drops bak/ food - twice a week
    .10ml start - twice daily (total .20ml) (corrected typo..sorry )
    Change rocks at 6 week intervals.

    All tank parameters at a NSW levels. Any ideals what is wrong and what I should do would be greatly appreciated.

    Joseph
    Last edited by SCARYBO; 07-12-2005, 01:20 PM.

  • #2
    20ml of start a DAY in a roughly 40 gallon system? I use .6ml a day in my net 200 gallon system...

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    • #3
      As jeff said, that this point hold the zeo-dosages for another 2-3 days then resume the same bak/food doses. Reduce Start1 to .25ml 2x's/day. When I used Start1 on my 450g system, I dosed Start1 .1ml 2x's/day & that was good to hold N's/P's inline[Salifert's neg.] I've since switched to Start2[no TN] & use a Hanna to measure my P's. Bob
      "There might be something to this ZEOvit"

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      • #4
        I dose about 6ml/day of Start in my 400g tank...
        400 gallon reef, Bubble King 300, I~Spin, 2 x 10,000K BLV 400W, 2 x 20,000K Radium 400W, 2 x 6,400K Osram 400W, Schuran Jetstream 1, AquaController Pro

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gqjeff
          20ml of start a DAY in a roughly 40 gallon system? I use .6ml a day in my net 200 gallon system...

          Opps...sorry about that .. I cant type and think at the same time. .20ml a day.

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          • #6
            aha, BIG difference!

            Valida is a favorite of flatworms, are you sure you don't have any?
            400 gallon reef, Bubble King 300, I~Spin, 2 x 10,000K BLV 400W, 2 x 20,000K Radium 400W, 2 x 6,400K Osram 400W, Schuran Jetstream 1, AquaController Pro

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Orion76
              aha, BIG difference!

              Valida is a favorite of flatworms, are you sure you don't have any?
              I would really be suprised. I havent added anything in 8+ months (space issues). I havent seen any bugs of any type.

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              • #8
                They're basically invisible, but 8 months is a long time...
                400 gallon reef, Bubble King 300, I~Spin, 2 x 10,000K BLV 400W, 2 x 20,000K Radium 400W, 2 x 6,400K Osram 400W, Schuran Jetstream 1, AquaController Pro

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SCARYBO
                  Opps...sorry about that .. I cant type and think at the same time. .20ml a day.
                  Ok thats better hehehe.. I would hold dosing for a couple days and observe.. Have you had any temp swings you are aware of?

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                  • #10
                    Joseph, low Ca or KH can result in basal tissue recession, as can bigger swings in water temp[rise in salinity?] that can occur during the summer; also excess of elements[have you changed saltmixes?] or too much bak or start1. Bob
                    "There might be something to this ZEOvit"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Aged Salt
                      As jeff said, that this point hold the zeo-dosages for another 2-3 days then resume the same bak/food doses. Reduce Start1 to .25ml 2x's/day. When I used Start1 on my 450g system, I dosed Start1 .1ml 2x's/day & that was good to hold N's/P's inline[Salifert's neg.] I've since switched to Start2[no TN] & use a Hanna to measure my P's. Bob

                      Bob,

                      I should increase start to .12ml twice a day or is that .25ml twice a day. Sorry for my confusion.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Aged Salt
                        Joseph, low Ca or KH can result in basal tissue recession, as can bigger swings in water temp[rise in salinity?] that can occur during the summer; also excess of elements[have you changed saltmixes?] or too much bak or start1. Bob

                        Bob,

                        Ca and KH are on target. I havent monitored the temp/ salinity the past couple days. Let me check for swings. Good point.

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                        • #13
                          , Joseph, the .25ml 2x's/day was based on the 20ml/day typo. I would check temp/salinity frequently, & reduce Bak/food to 1 drop each 2x's/wk & Start.1ml 2x's/day, as at 6mos. your "stored-nutrients" should be depleted. The zeolites affect now with a little help from bak/food/start is all that is needed to keep your waters in good status. Bob
                          "There might be something to this ZEOvit"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Aged Salt
                            , Joseph, the .25ml 2x's/day was based on the 20ml/day typo. I would check temp/salinity frequently, & reduce Bak/food to 1 drop each 2x's/wk & Start.1ml 2x's/day, as at 6mos. your "stored-nutrients" should be depleted. The zeolites affect now with a little help from bak/food/start is all that is needed to keep your waters in good status. Bob

                            I will check temp/salinity when I get home tonight (amazingly I still have to work for a living.. I wish I could get paid for caring for my tanK). So I will reduce Bak/Food to 1 drop each 2x/ wk. I'm still not clear on the start.
                            .1ml 2x a day / or .05 2x a day.

                            Thanks
                            Joseph

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                            • #15
                              Hows your Mg. For some reason my system is Mg deficient and recently with the tank move it was 99o All my coral right now have stn. I hope mine come back. Good luck.
                              Sean

                              Tank Specs:60g Cube SPS/Clam tank, ASM G1x Skimmer, DIY ZEOvit Reactor, 1x400w EVC 14k, Marine Life Aquatics CR-250 CaRx (RIP)

                              Not sure yet.....Build Thread to come!

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