About Dosing Adjustment

[7thheaven]

Hi all

I think my dosing is not perfect. I asked to my greatest experts about dosing
in my tank. and they gave me the great solutions..thanks...but...

Every tank is not same. and every dosing schedule should be different too
I think.. so I wanna adjust my dosing quantity for perfect coloration and
growth of my tank...

and I wanna know how to approach...

Current Dosing schedule of my 100gal system(phase2).
1. 2drops bak and food every otherday for 2weeks(after changing media)
and same dosage twice in a week (after 2weeks)
2. 0.9ml start2 every day (0.3ml x 3 in a day)
3. using carbon 500ml and change every month.
4. spur2 once in every other week
5. AA 2drops twice in a week
6. ME 2ml once every week

so at first I wanna approach basic 4. so I will not dose other zeostuff for
the time being...

so could you tell me how to adjust dosing quantity?
I think important issue is bak and start2...
which is better...
1. bak dosing fix (current dosing) and change the quantity of start2
2. start2 dosing fix and change the Q of zeobak
3. etc

Thanks in advance~!!!

[nyfireman3097]

well what seems to be the problem now ?
Nick

[7thheaven]

well what seems to be the problem now ?
Nick

hard to control the NO3, PO4...so can not expect the better coloration.
the tips are changing a little but that's it..I can not see the better color
of their bodies, (except one birdnest, it becomes pink from light brown)

I change the dosing schedule a little bit...

I have not installed the PO4 reducer in CA reactor yet. :2gunsfiri

so I will set the PO4 reducer up first with Elimiphos(al based) or biophos3,

if nothing happened, I will change the quantity of zeobak or start..

[nyfireman3097]

in my tank i have about 125g of water and i use 1.5 ml of start a day 3 drops of AA every other day and 3 drops of food/bak 2x a week i would try one more dropp of food and bak and try 1.2 ml a day of start .4 3x day
Nick

[7thheaven]

in my tank i have about 125g of water and i use 1.5 ml of start a day 3 drops of AA every other day and 3 drops of food/bak 2x a week i would try one more dropp of food and bak and try 1.2 ml a day of start .4 3x day
Nick

Thanks Nick.~

[nyfireman3097]

No prob listen just watch for changes if you see bad chanfes lower them but i doubt you will
Nick

[G.Alexander]

Vince, any idea where the nutrients are coming from, for example fish food, fish load, RO water, salt, ca reactor media etc ?

I think it would be the best to eliminate the source first.

Another idea would be a overdose in ZeoStart2 which causes darker tissue. Have you tried to reduce the ZeoStart2 dosage with the observation of rising nutrients ?

G.Alexander

[7thheaven]

I think it would be the best to eliminate the source first.

Another idea would be a overdose in ZeoStart2 which causes darker tissue. Have you tried to reduce the ZeoStart2 dosage with the observation of rising nutrients ?

G.Alexander

Thanks Alexander.. so I checked PO4 of CA media with salifert. for accurate
measurement, I will buy the hanna colorimeter.

and your recommandation is increasing start2? I have not used this method..

some people do not use zeostart at all...How about adding zeobak more?

Thanks..

[G.Alexander]

Vince, if ZeoStart2 is overdosed the result will be a zoox reproduction in the corals tissue. This is a similar sign as higher nutrients show. To find out which causes your dark tissue of your corals IMO there are two possibilities:

1. Higher nutrients – especially PO4
2. Overdose of any elements – especially ZeoStart2

To find this out it would be interesting to know if PO4 rises if you cut down the ZeoStart2 dosage. If this is the case, we have to look further which is a similar situation with ZeoBac and ZeoFood.

I would also recommend to stop ME, iron and iodine at the moment to get a clear result.

G.Alexander

[7thheaven]

Vince, if ZeoStart2 is overdosed the result will be a zoox reproduction in the corals tissue. This is a similar sign as higher nutrients show.

G.Alexander

Thanks Alexander~ very interesting point...I have known zeostart(1 or 2)
plays a role of helping to reduce NO3 and PO4, so If the dosing is so small,
I think they could not work well (reducing high nutrient) but If overdose,
similar symptom too?

if I cut zeostart2 dosing 1/3(0.3ml in a day), Is it OK?
and
How can I know the quantity of start2 is not enough to my tank?

Thanks.. :yesway:

[7thheaven]

and I installed the PO4 reducer in outlet of my CA reactor with TM elimi-phos

I will have a hana colorimeter

and check the PO4 level contiunously and let you know.. Thanks..

[G.Alexander]

Vince, I would recommend to cut down the dosage if you have access to the Hanna PO4 photometer. I would suggest to go down to 0,1 ml in the morning and 0,1 ml in the evening, monitoring parallel PO4 with the photometer. If you notice PO4 rising the quantity could be increased a little bit until you find the lowest, necessary quantity which will keep you PO4 in balance. However I would try to find the PO4 source.

G.Alexander

[7thheaven]

Vince, I would recommend to cut down the dosage if you have access to the Hanna PO4 photometer. I would suggest to go down to 0,1 ml in the morning and 0,1 ml in the evening, monitoring parallel PO4 with the photometer. If you notice PO4 rising the quantity could be increased a little bit until you find the lowest, necessary quantity which will keep you PO4 in balance. However I would try to find the PO4 source.

G.Alexander

Thanks...I will try to do it :yesway:

[7thheaven]

Now I dose zeostart2 0.2ml (morning and evening) and I found that my SPS colors

changed darker... and PO4 level is 0.05 with hanna colorimeter...

If I can maintain PO4level, Can I fix the dosing of start2? and adjust other things

(for example bak or food)

What should I do?

[Aged Salt]

Hi Vince, as per Alexander's recommendations, reduce ZS2 to .1ml 2x's/day daily,[ on my new 300g system, I dose ZS2 at 2 drops 4x's/day] while not dosing any zeo-supplements, including AAHC & observe your corals for 1wk. You should see improved color in your corals[less darkening] while a the same time, no increase in your P04's. Bob