What conditions will zeovit cause rtn/stn?

[kamiru]

Hi need to know from the experts here, on what conditions will rtn/stn happen? I had been using zeovit for ~4weeks. New tank setup. Noticed that all parms still at zero. Had already transferred all SPS into the new tank from the old setup. All are well and the tips of some sps are lightly coloured. Browned sps on halfway thru colour change back. But today, as i was removing algae form the tamk glass and sps rocks, found that 2 sps had started to stn. Can anyone advice on this this? Did i overdose? My tank is around 20G. A sump of 15 G. Total makes up to 35G. Using 1/3 of the 1 litre zeolits pack. First 2 weeks, 2 drops of food & bak eveyday. After 2 weeks, dose 2 times weekly. From the start, dose 1 drop aminoacid everyday. On the 3rd week, start to dose 1 drop floride and iron everyday. Hope this helps. (StN started from base of sps)

[Aged Salt]

Hi Kamiru, thnx. for bringing your problem forward. Just to be sure, you are not using ZeoStart? Correct? Be sure your Ca/KH levels are inline--Ca>400/KH-6-8. Too low of a level on these will result in basal tissue loss. Be sure your salinity is with 1.023-5 & stable. I recommend the following:
1) reduce the zeolites to 250ml with a flow rate of 25-35gph[100l/h]. Too fast a flow thru the zeo-filter results in too rapid a decline in nutrients resulting in negative coral consequences. Are you cycling the zeolite-filter?
2) Hold all zeo-dosing for 3-5 days, to allow the corals to adjust to the lowering nutrient levels, then reduce the zeo-quantities by 50%.
3)Dose 1/4 Cup carbon[1 Cup/100g/400l net volume] in your sump, passively. Failure to use carbon results in possible elemental overload. Too much carbon results in coral stress as well.
4) Reduce PIF/Fe dosing to once or twice/wk.
If other corals become involved over the next few days, plz. post up for further measures. Bob

[kamiru]

Hi Kamiru, thnx. for bringing your problem forward. Just to be sure, you are not using ZeoStart? Correct? Be sure your Ca/KH levels are inline--Ca>400/KH-6-8. Too low of a level on these will result in basal tissue loss. Be sure your salinity is with 1.023-5 & stable. I recommend the following:
1) reduce the zeolites to 250ml with a flow rate of 25-35gph[100l/h]. Too fast a flow thru the zeo-filter results in too rapid a decline in nutrients resulting in negative coral consequences. Are you cycling the zeolite-filter?
2) Hold all zeo-dosing for 3-5 days, to allow the corals to adjust to the lowering nutrient levels, then reduce the zeo-quantities by 50%.
3)Dose 1/4 Cup carbon[1 Cup/100g/400l net volume] in your sump, passively. Failure to use carbon results in possible elemental overload. Too much carbon results in coral stress as well.
4) Reduce PIF/Fe dosing to once or twice/wk.
If other corals become involved over the next few days, plz. post up for further measures. Bob

Hi ages salt, a few things i forgot to mention. yes, i am using zeostart1. First 3 days at 10ml for dosage. After that, 1ml per day. 2 weeks after, changed dosing to 2 times per week. I am using carbon also. Maybe the flow of the reactor i had set too high(~700L/Hr). i am cycling my tank.How abt amino acid? Do i need to dose everyday? I am dosing calcium everyday. Alkalinity dose every 2 days. Maintained at MG - 1320, cal - 420, dkh - 7.

I am having one brown/reddish humilis. The tips atrted to lighten to light purple. One staghorn originally green from LFs, i bought it when it was totally brown, now turning back to green in ~3weeks. And a few more testimony, but have to write a full page if got time. From this, really boosts my confidence over zeovit. it really helps.

So when do i start to dose zeospur 2???

Really appreciate for your prompt reply.

[Aged Salt]

Kamiru, good & bad things are happening, so slowing down your nutrient depletion is paramount to avoid further coral recession. ZeoStart1 dosage for your system, when you begin zeo-dosing again, is .25ml 2x's/day[or .5ml once a day]. The zeo-filter flow rate must be precise, as recommended above.
ZeoSpur2 will not be recommended until one's system is in latter phase 2[~4mos] due to it's potency. It's important to first allow coral adaptation with the nutrient depletion before adding ZeoSpur2. Bob

[kamiru]

Kamiru, good & bad things are happening, so slowing down your nutrient depletion is paramount to avoid further coral recession. ZeoStart1 dosage for your system, when you begin zeo-dosing again, is .25ml 2x's/day[or .5ml once a day]. The zeo-filter flow rate must be precise, as recommended above.
ZeoSpur2 will not be recommended until one's system is in latter phase 2[~4mos] due to it's potency. It's important to first allow coral adaptation with the nutrient depletion before adding ZeoSpur2. Bob

Hi Bob, for the amino acid, do i need to add daily from now? Or do i have to wait for a few days?

[Aged Salt]

Good question, that's the one supplement I would continue to dose, at 1 drop daily. Bob

[kamiru]

Hi bob, when do i start to resume the dosing? What dosing regime do u recommend for my tank? I really got no idea. Do i need to start all over again? I had been measuring my water parms every week. Shows 0 nitrate & 0 phosphate. Pls advice. Thanks.

The items i am going to dose are zeobak, food, start1, floride & iron. Need help on the dosing regime for these items. BTW i had already dosed for 4 weeks already.

[invincible569]

If you're havin RTN/STN, you should really wait a while on the Spur2.

[Aged Salt]

Hi Kamiru, hold all zeo-dosing for a total of 7 days[except AAHC]. Then exchange the zeolites, adjust the flow rate & quantity with bak/food/start at 1/2 the amount used previously as directed above. After the 7 day holding period begin a new cycle of bak/food at 1 drop every other day for the first 2 wks. then 1 drop ea. 2x's/wk. Dose Start1 at .25ml 2x's/day daily. The zeolite's interval will from now on be 6wks in duration. I would recommend holding PIF/Fe until all your corals appear healthly. Bob

[kamiru]

Hi Kamiru, hold all zeo-dosing for a total of 7 days[except AAHC]. Then exchange the zeolites, adjust the flow rate & quantity with bak/food/start at 1/2 the amount used previously as directed above. After the 7 day holding period begin a new cycle of bak/food at 1 drop every other day for the first 2 wks. then 1 drop ea. 2x's/wk. Dose Start1 at .25ml 2x's/day daily. The zeolite's interval will from now on be 6wks in duration. I would recommend holding PIF/Fe until all your corals appear healthly. Bob

Bob, u mean i need to change out all my existing zeoltes in my reactor? If so, do i need to use 250ml of new zeolites?

For the zeostart, after 2 weeks of cycle, do i continue to dose with the same amount u recommended(0.25ml 2x daily)?

BTW, [AAHC] means amino acid is it?

[Aged Salt]

Yes, exchange the zeolites entirely every 6wks. I do use about 10 "seasoned" stones from the last batch to help speed the seeding process.
ZeoStart is dosed everyday thruout the time one is using the ZEOvit method
AAHC= aminoacid high concentrate. Sorry for my shortcuts Bob

[nyfireman3097]

also i would get the Alk up to 8 seems to me most people have including myself seen the sps's thrive better at 8
Nick

[kamiru]

Bob & Nick, you two really provide me with lots of details. I really appreciate all your help. I hope this time round, i would setup the zeovit system right. A very great thank you from Singapore!

[Aged Salt]

Thnx. Kamiru, plz. post-up any questions as you go. Also, Farish is from Singapore & is very knowledgeable in the ZEOvit method Bob

[nyfireman3097]

your welcome bro im small potatoes compared to some lol just very happy to help
Nick