New 125 project

[reeftreasures]

1. Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.) - about 200 gallons
2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.) - about 180
3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique - B-Ionic & Oceans Blend
4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.) - No
5. Are you using Ozone - No
6. Are you using UV - Yes 2-15 watts
7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume) - Berlin Classic w/ Mag 7
8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels - P04 0.5 N03 0
9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels - 450, 11.2, N/A
10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.) - Refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud (It's a mutt)
11. Type of light (Watt, color temp, how old, etc.) - 2-175 14K's, 1-400 14K, 1 160 VHO atinic, & 1 21 watt T5 Atinic
12. What corals do you keep - Mostly SPS but a few softies and zoo's
13. Tissue color (light or dark) - N/A
14. How long has the tank been running - should be up in about 2 weeks
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system - Heard good things about it
16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.) - i add coral accel 1cap/d, iodide 10 ml/d, & Lugol's 7 drops/d
17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.) - 150 Lbs.
18. Any present problems - N/A
19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.) - N/a
20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.) - fastest, seatest, & nutrafin
21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.) - N/A
22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.) 1.024, 79-80

[Diesel3443]

First off, welcome to Zeoleand

No UV is needed on zeo and it is actually shunned. As for parameters, Ca 450, alk 7.5-8.0 dkh, Mg 1350. Father Bob will have to steer you in the righ direction for dosing

Here's my 2 cents on bionic. As your tank moves into a nutrient poor environment(i.e phase 3), IME, it becomes harder to keep you params stable enough to keep corals healthy. If you stick with bionic then I would consider a dosing pump to keep things as stable as possible I think Steve aka GTR uses a 2 part with great success, I on the otherhand, lost corals in phase 3 of Zeo because the corals seem to be more subceptable to change in water chemistry. If not seriously consider a CaRx for supplementation. Just my 2 cents

All in all good luck and welcome to the Zeohead family

[reeftreasures]

thanks for the welcome and the info

[nyfireman3097]

Yeah no UV ditch the DSB & MM in the fuge leave cheato in it until it starts to die off which then u will have to star takin out the dead parts Next get the alk to 8.0 sps's like it at that level it seems most get a salifert magniessium test kit n like i told ya the hanna test kit 4 PO4 stop dosing everything else as in the iodine, coral accel, ect..ect..... i thought u were goin w/ a 125g tank ????? also get salifert test kits there more realiable then the others with this said Good Luck & im happy you decided to join us and u will love the kool-aid
Nick

[reeftreasures]

ok so no uv,dsb, or mm just tank, water, and zeo LOL
thank god the tank isn't set-up yet i would have had to redo it already

[Diesel3443]

Honestly on Zeo you dont need much rock either. I ditched a lot of it after starting

[mesocosm]

Greetings All !

reeftreasures ... cool monoker ... and, indeed, Welcome to ZeoVille!

ok so no uv,dsb, or mm just tank, water, and zeo LOL

The UV is definitely counterproductive to the bacterioplankton aspect of the ZEOvit system ... the miracle mud has the potential to disrupt the elemental balances which the ZEOvit system is designed to create. But as far as the DSB goes, many ZEOvit systems have them, and they look great. Bare Bottom, Shallow Sand Bed, or Deep Sand Bed ... these substrate configurations can be selected from a purely asethetic point of view. The ZEOvit system will accomodate any of them.

... leave cheato in it until it starts to die off ...

Definitely a strategy that has been used successfully in the past, but given that you're talking about a transition to a larger ZEOvit centered system, I would suggest that you might consider choosing to avoid the introduction of the Chaetomorpha into the new system to begin with ... JMO.

I would also suggest that you might consider incorporating some form of refugium into your system. Live food culturing, light & water chemistry acclimation of new specimens, relative "isolation" of injured and/or problematic specimens, and an overall ... albeit relatively small ... increase in total system volume are all potentially useful applications of a refugium in a ZEOvit system ... JMO.

Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.) - about 200 gallons ... What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume) - Berlin Classic w/ Mag 7 ...

Powerful skimming is a good thing ... IMO ... for all marine aquaria (... with the exception of a few "specialty" configurations ...). Really powerful skimming is a very good thing when applying ZEOvit methodology. While the Berlin Classic is technically rated for your new system volume, if your plan and budget allow for it, you might consider upgrading your protein skimming capacity. Just a thought ...

Many thanks for answering the 22 questions ... VERY helpful ...

Overall, I think your plan is excellent, and I hope you'll continue to share it with us as it evolves.

JMO ... HTH.

[Aged Salt]

Welcome Kevin to the ZEOvit method. First & foremost be sure to read & thoroughly understand the ZEOvit guide, contained in a sticky near the top of this forum. The component concepts are easy to master after a few readings As others have mentioned the cons with ZEOvit, I'll exact your zeo-dosing for the first 4wks.
1) dose 1 3/4 Cups carbon, passively in your sump in a filter sock, kneaded every other day & changed every 4wks.
2) dose 1 1/2ltrs. zeolites in a zeo-filter with a flow rate of 150gph. Pump clean the stones 2x's/day. Cycle your zeo-filter "on" & "off" at 3hr intervals. The zeolites will be changed at 4wks. initially, then the exchange interval is lengthed to 6wks.
3) dose bak/food 4 drops ea. daily for the 1st 2wks., then, 4 drops ea. 2x's/wk. Dose these in front of the zeo-filter, with the skimmer off for 60min after dosing.
4) dose ZeoStart2[use the new Start2, available next wk] at 3ml. 2x's/day daily, or 2ml 3x's/day. It is not necessary to turn off the skimmer when dosing Start2. Ask questions as they appear. Bob

[nyfireman3097]

bob i know kevin hes gonna have a 125g and a seprate 75g for frags there gonna be set up sepratly plumbed
Nick

[Aged Salt]

Thnx. Nick, for the heads-up.
Kevin, the zeo-doses are based on one using the ZEOvit method with ~180g net volume. If this is different, then the dosing quantities will need adjusting. Bob

[reeftreasures]

My main tank is the 180 gallon volume I'm running a 125 w/ a 55 sump so thats where I got the 180. But after sand and rock I'm sure it's only about 160 -170. also I was thinking of dividing the sump into 3 compartments 1st-input from tank and skimmer, 2nd-refugium with macro algae and live sand, 3rd return pump to tank. I was thinking of adding a small 15 gallon tank just to put the zeo reactor in instead of putting it in the sump will this work or can I just put it into the last chamber of the sump.

[Aged Salt]

Kevin, that's a good plan. I would recommend foregoing the macro-algae, as it's not needed with ZEOvit. Also reduce the bak/food7 to 3 drops on the above regimen. Bob

[reeftreasures]

ok so what should i put into the refugium or do i just not need it and i can stick my zeo reactor in that chamber

[Aged Salt]

Kevin, exactly, as the ZEOvit method will reduce the N's/P's lower than the macro-algae can survive. Bob