Dosing Zeospur 2 vs. new corals

[curt conrad]

Bob
Well,I'm at that point in time now to dose the Spur But my question is,I added new corals this week.And they still are adjusting to my tank conditions.Is is ok to dose it now? If so the water volume is at 150 gallons.I just want to double check the amount to be put it.
Thanks
Curt & Barbara

[Aged Salt]

Hi Curt/Barbara, that's an excellent question. I'll answer it with what I've done, although maybe Alexander can chime in with his opinion. Whenever I've introducted a new SPS in my system, that coincides with my Spur2 dosage, I've alway held Spur2 for at least a wk. & if that coral appears stressed, I'll skip the Spur2 dosing until it improves with brighter color & p-e. My one lost from Spur2 came on the heels of a previous unhealthy looking Acropora. It was my 1st time to dose Spur2 & I've consequently reduced my dosagewith good results. Dose ~60% of the recommended guideline dosage & increase the dosage every 2wks. by 10% until your corals stay lighter in color for 7-9 days. That will be your end-point dosage for your system Bob

[nbd13]

Bob- shoudl one wait till there 2nd chane out to dose spur2? or wait longer?

what about amino acids? i was thinking after my 2nd change out go ahead with the amino acids?

thanks!

Nick

[Aged Salt]

Hi Nick, I recommend waiting ~4mos into ZEOvit before beginning Spur2. Your idea of using AAHC or for that matter PIF/Fe now is good, as this will allow you "to read" these supplemental effects before trying Spur2. Nick, I recommend using AAHC at the recommended doses but only 2x's/wk. Bob

[Aquatic Image]

Bob, all in all one should only dose AAHC 2x's/wk? Or just in Nicks instance?

[Aged Salt]

IME, dosing AAHC at the recommended guideline dossage daily resulted in excess diatoms & slimey deposits on the LR. Not so at the twice/wk dosing. If one begins noticing a light colored "haze" appearance on the panes, daily, decrease the AAHC quantity & frequency. Bob

[Aquatic Image]

Thanks for clearing that up for me Bob.

[nyfireman3097]

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is my problem then i dose 3 drops every day of aa im cuttin back to 2x a week w/ the food and bak ............. On that note do i dose it 2x a week even after a change out or every other day like the bak and food ?
Nick

[G.Alexander]

Curt & Barbara, I see it as Bob. I would hold the ZeoSpur2 dosage for a minimum of a week after new corals are placed in the tank to give them some time for adoption.

I have also dosed ZeoSpur2 while I added some new corals without a problem, but this is relative and it depends on many things.

I would recommend to hold it for a week and a half to be on the save side.

G.Alexander

[G.Alexander]

Dosing AAHC once or twice a week will also work fine if one gets the overdosing signs by the daily dosage.

G.Alexander

[nyfireman3097]

lol thats what happened to me
Nick

[curt conrad]

Bob
Well all is well here.I'm still holding off on the Zeospur 2 .But my question is.What changes do I look for now.It seems that the longer I'm into the Zeovit,the additives will become a lot less as I go.Do I just stay on the daily routine now.And when you see certain signs you back off?Or does the dosing keep changing as we go along?Is this the final dosing pattern now that I'm in now?Like to hear what's up for the future as dosing goes.I hope I didn't confuse you here.I was talking to Eric about corals.He said don't be surprised if you only dose once a week.Is that possible?
Thanks
C/B

[Aged Salt]

Happy Easter wknd, Curt & Barbara. With each change of zeolites, initially, your zeo-dosing usually decreases somewhat, depending on one's current nutrient levels, coral appearances[tips/bases] & degree of bacterial film.
Months out on ZEOvit, one will reach a very low maintenance zeo-quantities, as Eric mentioned, compared to when you first began ZEOvit. Of course this will vary in time & quantity for ea. individual tank. As a example, initially, I dosed 20ml Start1 2x's/wk, & now Start1 dosage is .1ml 3x's/day. Bob

[curt conrad]

Ok Bob I'm with you now.So you are saying the "only" thing that will change is the "start ". So everything else stays the same PFI, AA,Iron,Bac.ect....
What the difference from dosing 3 times a day vs. 2 times a day.I remember you mentioning this on other post you have made.I can see where it wouldn't be less stress on the corals.But is there any other reason for this? So the whole key here from now on with the start.I can see as growth takes off,and corals are added the demand increases.
Oh yea "Happy Easter " to you and your family ! Does that mean you are taking " off " Zeovit forum because it's Easter? Yea you are entitled to it......
Take off an enjoy the day.....
We will still bewhen you return .
C/B

[Aged Salt]

Hi Curt, Barbara, as our nutrients become more depleted, less bak/food/start quantities will be needed to keep these nutrients at bay, assuming nutrient import has not been altered. With the ZEOvit, we dose specialized bacteria that depend on specific carbon sources, provided by Food7 & Start. In this scenario, dosing Start in smaller, more frequent dosages maintain these specialized bacteria populations to do their "pacman"-like function. Remember also, the zeolites perform multi-nutrient-reduction functions which becomes more effective in light of less available nutrient-pools.
The zeo-supplements quantities generally will remain stable, based on net water volume, not on nutrient levels Bob