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  • Where do you connect to the chiller?

    Hi all~

    Where do you connect to the chiller?


    1. overflow inlet-> chiller-> sump
    2. Return pump-> chiller-> outlet to main tank
    3. both are OK...

    Currently I connect like #1 but I am not sure it is effective..
    and wonder the detrius from overflow can be filed(?) in chiller...
    cause maybe water speed is not enough...

    which # is correct?

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  • #2
    Im doing #2 I prefer to feed the chiller with Skimmed water instead of 'dirty' water straight from the overflow. That should go to the skimmer directly before anything else.
    Farish

    Setup: 250G System, ATI Powermodul 10x80w T5s, 4x6100 Tunze Streams & 7095 MultiController, Deltec PF1000 CR, Deltec AP902 Skimmer, IKS, Zeovit, Artica 1Hp Chiller

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    • #3
      Thanks Farish~!

      Is it possible to file the detritus in chiller in case of #1?

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      • #4
        i go by option 1.. if you know your main to sump turn over rate is high...

        and I dont believe feed the chiller with Skimmed water, how can you be 100% sure the water you feeding to the chiller is just purely skimmed water? and not mix with overflow?

        unless u go tell me u got 2 sump where the skimmed water go to 1 sump and chiller will be feeding from that sump. But by doing this issit mean your feeding rate for your skimmer in very high flow and thus affect the dwell time
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        180g 3 side Low Iron Glass, Lighting: ATI Power Module 10 x 80W KZ Coral Light (awiting for to mix with fiji purple), Return Pump: Red Dragon 12m3, Tunze WaveMaker:1x 6200, 3 x 6100 and 1 x 6060 + Multicontroller 7095, Bubble King 300 Internal, Deltec - PF 601S, Arctica Chiller 1/2HP, I~Zeo Reactor IZ-618

        BK 300 in actionhttp://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v5...IDEO_00003.flv

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        • #5
          Originally posted by keigo
          i go by option 1.. if you know your main to sump turn over rate is high...

          and I dont believe feed the chiller with Skimmed water, how can you be 100% sure the water you feeding to the chiller is just purely skimmed water? and not mix with overflow?

          unless u go tell me u got 2 sump where the skimmed water go to 1 sump and chiller will be feeding from that sump. But by doing this issit mean your feeding rate for your skimmer in very high flow and thus affect the dwell time
          so sorry keigo..I do not understand what you said..
          My skimmer do not need feed pump. (schuran 150) It is in sump.
          the water through chiller fall in the sump. and my skimmer do the job with water in sump...

          When water in overflow inlet go to chiller, No feed pump, just gravity...

          I wanna know you can understand my bad x 100 english... :playboy:
          Last edited by 7thheaven; 07-19-2005, 11:04 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 7thheaven
            Thanks Farish~!

            Is it possible to file the detritus in chiller in case of #1?

            NOT file===> piled up...

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            • #7
              Vince, you can use your overflow and that's nice because you don't add another pump/heat. But, you need to be sure you are putting the appropriate/correct amount of water through the chiller. If you use a pump to feed the chiller then you know how much water is going through the chiller. Both have their benefits and drawbacks.

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              • #8
                One the reasons an overflow is not recommended specifically for a chiller is that if "something" gets into the chiller and gets stuck you'll never know. It's not like feeding a skimmer or something that you can see the inside of.

                The head pressure loss through a skimmer is about equal to an elbow of whatever you've gotta restrict the plumbing to. I can tell you I get very little apparent head pressure loss running through my arctica 1/2 hp using 1" plumbing with my RD. I've got the RD hooked to a 1.5" cross with the 3 outlets then going down to 1" and the thing RIPS.
                10x3x2 FOWLR (for now)
                BK400ext
                RD12 return, 2 RD12 closed loop, wavebox with extension
                MRC kalkmixer
                IKS

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                • #9
                  Thanks....Could you tell me the proper water flow through the chiller (200watt 1/4HP)?

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                  • #10
                    the manufacturer should have recommended flow rates.
                    10x3x2 FOWLR (for now)
                    BK400ext
                    RD12 return, 2 RD12 closed loop, wavebox with extension
                    MRC kalkmixer
                    IKS

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                    • #11
                      Ideally it's tank-chiller-tank so you can leave your chiller running when you take your sump offline for maintenance (or flooding ), but that's not always practical.

                      A little chiller like that probably doesn't need much more than 1000lph so a small Eheim pump will do.
                      400 gallon reef, Bubble King 300, I~Spin, 2 x 10,000K BLV 400W, 2 x 20,000K Radium 400W, 2 x 6,400K Osram 400W, Schuran Jetstream 1, AquaController Pro

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                      • #12
                        well depend on how you set it up and you have to factor in head loss too....
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                        180g 3 side Low Iron Glass, Lighting: ATI Power Module 10 x 80W KZ Coral Light (awiting for to mix with fiji purple), Return Pump: Red Dragon 12m3, Tunze WaveMaker:1x 6200, 3 x 6100 and 1 x 6060 + Multicontroller 7095, Bubble King 300 Internal, Deltec - PF 601S, Arctica Chiller 1/2HP, I~Zeo Reactor IZ-618

                        BK 300 in actionhttp://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v5...IDEO_00003.flv

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 7thheaven
                          NOT file===> piled up...
                          Vince, you should be doing at least 1/2 yearly cleaning of the chiller in both #1 and #2. Do a backflushing for the chiller too if possible.
                          Farish

                          Setup: 250G System, ATI Powermodul 10x80w T5s, 4x6100 Tunze Streams & 7095 MultiController, Deltec PF1000 CR, Deltec AP902 Skimmer, IKS, Zeovit, Artica 1Hp Chiller

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                          • #14
                            i have mine taking water from the sump area near my skimmer and putting it back near my return pump
                            Nick
                            Nick
                            180G SPS Mainly
                            10 Bulb T5 Starfire
                            Calcium Reactor
                            3 Tunze 6105's
                            Profilux Controller
                            ATB Return w/ wavysea
                            ATB M External Skimmer


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                            • #15
                              How about this plan?

                              sump-> RD pump-> use T outlet like this ㅓ ->ball balve-> left plumbing go to chiller
                              -> upper plumbing goes to main tank.

                              In Left plumbing(chillerside),
                              Left Plumbing-> chiller inlet-> chiller outlet-> sump again...

                              Is it not efficient? I don't want to add feed pump for chiller...

                              What about your opinion...

                              my chiller,Arctica 1/4hp, is needed flow rate more than 480(min max is 1920gph)

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